Car vs Bike - 1098 vs GT-R

**bane** · 17th December 2008, 07:07

by a car magazine...

http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallp...AR=236474&CT=V

**ckai** · 17th December 2008, 07:21

It's interesting really, that's the 3rd bike vs car vid I've seen recently and they all say the same thing...bike is good on straights, car better at braking and ultimately cornering. Which totally goes against what I thought.

It explains why I'll always be faster at cornering in a car then on the bike.

**MIXONE** · 17th December 2008, 07:52

I'd like a garage with them both parked in it.

**jrandom** · 17th December 2008, 08:01

That Skyline'd do a good job of towing a bike trailer.

Also, insert usual comment about the Ducati being a third of the price of the Nissan, etc.

**lostinflyz** · 17th December 2008, 08:08

umm well these would be the supersport times from the cadwell park BSB supersport.

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/bsb/...ing_times.html

thats over 10 SECONDS faster than that car did. im assuming its the same track -they went over the hill and all.

**Cajun** · 17th December 2008, 08:10

if you are coming race bikes you have to throw race cars in there

**lostinflyz** · 17th December 2008, 08:23

Originally Posted by Cajun

if you are coming race bikes you have to throw race cars in there

its supersport. the bikes aren't that flash. fine make me look up superstock times

ok superstock times

1000 - 1.31
600 - 1.33
R1 cup - 1.31

add to that the guy coming 52nd in 600 superstock still did 1.40 which is still a fraction quicker than that car went.

source: http://www.tsl-timing.com/?loc=major...&eventid=83404

**racerhead** · 17th December 2008, 08:25

Originally Posted by Cajun

if you are coming race bikes you have to throw race cars in there

They were only the supersport times which arent too far off everyday road bikes and road tyres more importantly so if they put a good rider on the bike it would be interesting to see if the result would be different

**racerhead** · 17th December 2008, 08:28

Originally Posted by lostinflyz

its supersport. the bikes aren't that flash. fine make me look up superstock times

ok superstock times

1000 - 1.31
600 - 1.33
R1 cup - 1.31

add to that the guy coming 52nd in 600 superstock still did 1.40 which is still a fraction quicker than that car went.

source: http://www.tsl-timing.com/?loc=major...&eventid=83404

Thats spot on because its all down to grip and handling in them classes and anyone could go racing on a stock bike minus lights and road kit so its not like there pure bred race bikes.
Theres actually more fancy race derived equipment in the GT-R

**Cajun** · 17th December 2008, 08:33

it could be said to put a good driver in the car, it would go faster,

did that gtr have the speed limiter removed? since limited via a gps.

**fatzx10r** · 17th December 2008, 08:53

would of been interesting seeing the gtr up against a desmosedici. i think that they are around the same price tag??

it doesnt really matter anyway, the gtr is still just a car at the end of the day..... did ya see that duc destroy it on the straight's

**racerhead** · 17th December 2008, 09:06

Originally Posted by Cajun

did that gtr have the speed limiter removed? since limited via a gps.

AFAIK the speed limiters automatically know when on a race track so I presume it was de limited for the shootout

**Cajun** · 17th December 2008, 09:08

Originally Posted by racerhead

AFAIK the speed limiters automatically know when on a race track so I presume it was de limited for the shootout

only if its entered in the system thats it a race track. I know when Aussie top gear tested it while ago, it was on there closed air field, but was still limited.

**dipshit** · 17th December 2008, 09:20

Originally Posted by ckai

It's interesting really, that's the 3rd bike vs car vid I've seen recently and they all say the same thing...bike is good on straights, car better at braking and ultimately cornering. Which totally goes against what I thought.

Bikes are shithouse when it comes to braking deep into corners compared to a good car. It isn't just important for who is faster than who... but a car is a lot more forgiving if you find yourself going too fast into a corner unexpectedly.

Was just reading in a magazine that Ducati are looking at developing an ABS system for the front wheel to help with braking in corners. This is one area where bikes can improve on a lot.

**racerhead** · 17th December 2008, 09:29

Originally Posted by Cajun

only if its entered in the system thats it a race track. I know when Aussie top gear tested it while ago, it was on there closed air field, but was still limited.

Not totally sure on this but would an airfield count as a racetrack?
Cadwell park is definetly a race track so presume its logged as that on GPS