T2 Lanes again!

**FJRider** · 9th March 2015, 16:39

Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner

Humbleness on the part of a police officer could go a long way towards not being perceived as utter cunts by the general public.

Humbleness .... fuck ...

You'll be dam lucky to get Discretion ... if you don't keep your mouth zipped and be polite.

Remember .... those "Cunts" have teeth. And they DO bite. (They call it job satisfaction)

**awayatc** · 10th March 2015, 05:32

Originally Posted by rastuscat

No wonder there's confusion about some issues, sometimes. No cop can know everything, all the time. It's just not possible.

Just sayin.

Absolutely agree...

Problem I have is the " if in doubt give a ticket " mentality that seems to be quite common by people wearing blue

**bogan** · 10th March 2015, 07:09

Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner

I wouldn't expect a cop like you to understand the subtleties of life, but there's an obvious imbalance of power at the road side. Humbleness on the part of a police officer could go a long way towards not being perceived as utter cunts by the general public.

Ironically, if you were capable of being humble, you wouldn't fail the attitude test and the cops would not seem like cunts!

Also, what is this, dredging season?

**Scuba_Steve** · 10th March 2015, 07:10

Originally Posted by awayatc

Absolutely agree...

Problem I have is the " if in doubt give a ticket " mentality that seems to be quite common by people wearing blue

Which you mustn't forget ties into the "guilty until you prove your innocence beyond reasonable doubt" system

**caspernz** · 10th March 2015, 08:07

Originally Posted by awayatc

Absolutely agree...

Problem I have is the " if in doubt give a ticket " mentality that seems to be quite common by people wearing blue

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

Which you mustn't forget ties into the "guilty until you prove your innocence beyond reasonable doubt" system

Now I'm not disagreeing with the above two statements. But I've found that after 30 years of driving/riding on 3 continents, the blue brigade in NZ is rather reasonable to deal with, provided one doesn't start off with a chip on ones' shoulder from the outset. Exceptions exist of course, but have you ever been pulled over for say speeding in Switzerland? Crossing a double yellow in France? Nah, I'll take the kiwi copper any day.

**rastuscat** · 10th March 2015, 10:45

Funny thing happened this morning.

A young guy on a moped overtook my marked Popo car on the left hand side.

The discussion was going okay until he started telling me I should be out catching a murderer. Up to that point I was considering treating the thing as an educational opportunity. As soon as the attitude deteriorated so did the chance of a warning. The foul language was a clue too.

Anyway, ticket issued.

**James Deuce** · 10th March 2015, 11:23

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Funny thing happened this morning.

A young guy on a moped overtook my marked Popo car on the left hand side.

The discussion was going okay until he started telling me I should be out catching a murderer. Up to that point I was considering treating the thing as an educational opportunity. As soon as the attitude deteriorated so did the chance of a warning. The foul language was a clue too.

Anyway, ticket issued.

This may be too soon, but you should've taken his keys. Obviously a tourist.

**James Deuce** · 10th March 2015, 11:23

Originally Posted by caspernz

Now I'm not disagreeing with the above two statements. But I've found that after 30 years of driving/riding on 3 continents, the blue brigade in NZ is rather reasonable to deal with, provided one doesn't start off with a chip on ones' shoulder from the outset. Exceptions exist of course, but have you ever been pulled over for say speeding in Switzerland? Crossing a double yellow in France? Nah, I'll take the kiwi copper any day.

Indeed. being marched to ATM to PAY NOW is a bit humiliating.

**Bass** · 10th March 2015, 11:31

And I remember an occasion on a KB ride (some time ago admittedly), when a member who appears earlier in this thread was radared at WELL over 200 kph not far from the Okorire pub and given a ticket for 139 kph.
On that occasion, the cop was a biker too, but it demonstrates what attitude and courtsey can achieve.

**Akzle** · 10th March 2015, 12:35

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Funny thing happened this morning.

A young guy on a moped overtook my marked Popo car on the left hand side.

The discussion was going okay until he started telling me I should be out catching a murderer. Up to that point I was considering treating the thing as an educational opportunity. As soon as the attitude deteriorated so did the chance of a warning. The foul language was a clue too.

Anyway, ticket issued.

you sure showed him!

plus, it's one more day of un-harrased murderin' for me - double bonus!

**rastuscat** · 10th March 2015, 12:44

Originally Posted by Bass

And I remember an occasion on a KB ride (some time ago admittedly), when a member who appears earlier in this thread was radared at WELL over 200 kph not far from the Okorire pub and given a ticket for 139 kph.
On that occasion, the cop was a biker too, but it demonstrates what attitude and courtsey can achieve.

Attitude and courtsey? When I was at College they never taught us to courtsey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtsey

**Bass** · 10th March 2015, 13:36

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Attitude and courtsey? When I was at College they never taught us to courtsey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtsey

Freudian slip perhaps. Think I'll leave it as it is

**RUSS** · 17th March 2015, 16:35

If the cop doesn't listen and insists on issuing an infringement notice then take it, email the Police Infringement Bureau and they will cancel the notice.

If you are upset about the cops attitude etc this can also be done by email and it will be addressed.

I am very surprised this has happened. It sounds like the Constable was attached to Auckland Motorways and if he didn't know should have asked. I often Police that T2 lane because there is always someone who thinks they are more important than the rest and wants to push in. I have stopped bikes there before, but that is to tell them that they should be using the T2 lane.

There's always one isn't there.

**Scuba_Steve** · 17th March 2015, 20:21

Originally Posted by RUSS

If the cop doesn't listen and insists on issuing an infringement notice then take it, email the Police Infringement Bureau and they will cancel the notice.

You're not in NZ are you? either that or you've never had to deal with this nationwide extortion operation, cause that sure as hell aint the way it works.

**Akzle** · 17th March 2015, 20:26

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

You're not in NZ are you? either that or you've never had to deal with this nationwide extortion operation, cause that sure as hell aint the way it works.

hush ynu.0he's bob. And he heard it from some other cop. And nau theyre all sad. So fuckyou citizen