Is this legal?

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

What I'm saying is to idle past cops. Do not give it a big handful while in earshot!

I ilde past everywhere these days...

[dipshit]

I ilde past everywhere these days...

Then I bet you won't have much trouble even though you drilled your mufflers out.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Then I bet you won't have much trouble even though you drilled your mufflers out.

Hopefully not... so far so good...

[BM-GS]

I'd not only ticket, I'd arrest the git on (from the sound of it) a cruiser-type motorbicycle who left his house this morning before 6am. He made a token effort of being less noisy than he might be going up the (long, uphill) driveway, then gassed it as soon as he got on the (long, residential) road and many other similar roads, before he finally buggered off over a hill and out of earshot.

Loud pipes may save lives, but they make lousy neighbours.

[scumdog]

I ilde past everywhere these days...

Don't worry, ya ain't THAT loud.

[sunhuntin]

I'd not only ticket, I'd arrest the git on (from the sound of it) a cruiser-type motorbicycle who left his house this morning before 6am. He made a token effort of being less noisy than he might be going up the (long, uphill) driveway, then gassed it as soon as he got on the (long, residential) road and many other similar roads, before he finally buggered off over a hill and out of earshot.

Loud pipes may save lives, but they make lousy neighbours.

agreed. basically a loud bike or car early in the am is like a lawn mower outside your window on a sunday morning while your trying it sleep in.

i remember i went to a rally a few years back where we all camped in a field. one of the guys there had a really nice sounding harley. i was amazed to watch him quietly walk the bike through the tents and well out of ear shot.

[scumdog]

Just to clarify - you think that Scummy is anti-biker? (anti clothes maybe)

Since short-circuit agrees with the above comment maybe they would like to post some quotes of mine that point to an 'anti-biker' attitude??

I need some entertanment.

[Rhino]

Gold Wing riders could also be done for excessively load stereos.

Steady on Ixion, I didn't think that I had The Who on THAT LOUD the last time we rode together.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Since short-circuit agrees with the above comment maybe they would like to post some quotes of mine that point to an 'anti-biker' attitude??

I need some entertanment.

oh come on Tom that's no fun... anti clothes, now that's a totally different thing I can prove that...

[SARGE]

i have a sound meter and the international ISO regs for sound testing.. wouldnt be able to document it and prolly wouldnt hold up in court but it would give you an idea


available for a small fee to cover my time and costs

[NordieBoy]

i have a sound meter and the international ISO regs for sound testing.. wouldnt be able to document it and prolly wouldnt hold up in court but it would give you an idea

Wouldn't the LTSA (or whoever they are this week) regs for sound testing be more appropriate?

[SARGE]

Wouldn't the LTSA (or whoever they are this week) regs for sound testing be more appropriate?

oh yeaa.. i forgot this was NZ..

please set your clocks back 20 years

[NordieBoy]

oh yeaa.. i forgot this was NZ..

please set your clocks back 20 years

Or read the specs...

http://www.lvvta.org.nz/stdExhaustNoiseEmissions.pdf

[PrincessBandit]

Haven't read whole thread, but it's obvious to all but the most naive that there will always be those who put a modified can back on after having their "standard" one present on their bike for the purposes of getting their warrant. Ditto for certification of aftermarket pipes i.e. modifying them again after the legal thing is done complete with little slip of paper saying all is ok.

In light of this I would only support roadside ticketing if the police have the db-o-meter (no, not their dangerousbastard-o-meter ) and can show the reading there and then.

What on earth will be next?????

[MarkH]

I would only support roadside ticketing if the police have the db-o-meter and can show the reading there and then.

I have to agree with this!

The good ole "let's give the police the power to pull over anyone, claim they were doing something wrong and give them a ticket, with no requirement for any proof - hell, let's just make it completely subjective"

How can we say this will never get abused? Who's to say that when you break up with a girl whose brother is a cop that all his mates wont suddenly realise that your stock exhaust is too loud and contravenes (e) the likelihood of annoyance to any person? Are you really supposed to accept a $250 fine & 10 demerit points multiple times because you pissed off some cop by dumping his sister? How could you prove the charges were malicious and amounted to harassment - there is no standard to measure the claimed offence against.

When you look at a law that says:
1) A driver must not operate a vehicle that creates noise that, having regard to all the circumstances, is excessive.
With no definition of excessive or the circumstances - you allow a cop to take out a personal grudge against someone while the victim has no way of disproving the offence. How can you argue against vague opinion?