Our own worst enemy

[peasea]

Mate you need to let that Nth Isle shit go,down here if you said "fuck up vulva" they would shut the bar.

Silly me.

(I still say Vulva's are cuntsa cars tho....)

[fuknKIWI]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...eed-limit.html

[fuknKIWI]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...eed-limit.html

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[dangerous]

Hmmmmmm... ya know driving back from Greymouth, and driving there for that matter loaded with race bikes and watching from a cager's view for a change, theres some right twats that shouldnt be alowd to ride, as a cage driver I wouldnt want to shear the costs of my ACC levie.

There was a serious acco on the way over, chopper called in and all, on the way back a wrecked TL lay on the road side, a compleat idiot on a early intruder was passing constently on blind bends (11km of twisties east of Aurthers) and knob on a nakid SV1000 passed me up the virerduct while there were oncomming cars... the list goes on, and ya know what having re passed these riders at the next servo... they were all older than me and I aint no spring chicken.
Kinda reinforces my 1st post.

[dipshit]

Hmmmmmm... ya know driving back from Greymouth, and driving there for that matter loaded with race bikes and watching from a cager's view for a change, theres some right twats that shouldnt be alowd to ride,

Yep, there are a lot of motorcyclists that have shit for brains... yet they can't see it.

[_Shrek_]

after a ride with the DB recon riders on sat, headed to Arrow Town to catch up with Mrs Shrek & ko, was having a with a mate who has a crib about 5 min walk from town centre on main road in

& I have to say that about 70% of the bikes that went past would have been doing 70+ ks in a 50k zone & then you had your total 's that were 100+ there were 5 of them all riding alone (probably why no one will ride with them)

I guess we are not doing oursleves any favors when this sort of shit is happening in a built up area

[wbks]

after a ride with the DB recon riders on sat, headed to Arrow Town to catch up with Mrs Shrek & ko, was having a with a mate who has a crib about 5 min walk from town centre on main road in

& I have to say that about 70% of the bikes that went past would have been doing 70+ ks in a 50k zone & then you had your total 's that were 100+ there were 5 of them all riding alone (probably why no one will ride with them)

I guess we are not doing oursleves any favors when this sort of shit is happening in a built up area

Yea, and next thing the fuckers are gona go around acting all condescending and shit. Could drive me to txt and drive!

[Brian d marge]

after a ride with the DB recon riders on sat, headed to Arrow Town to catch up with Mrs Shrek & ko, was having a with a mate who has a crib about 5 min walk from town centre on main road in

& I have to say that about 70% of the bikes that went past would have been doing 70+ ks in a 50k zone & then you had your total 's that were 100+ there were 5 of them all riding alone (probably why no one will ride with them)

I guess we are not doing oursleves any favors when this sort of shit is happening in a built up area

Remember SPEED KILLS
this is another point that needs to be addressed
the NZ Road laws are antiquated ,,, designed in the forties and never updated ,,,,

Have a look at Canada's 80/20 speed limits

Stephen

Over taking on a blind corner though ,,,, unforgivable

[dangerous]

Yea, and next thing the fuckers are gona go around acting all condescending and shit. Could drive me to txt and drive!

...ya what?

Hmmmmmm... ya know driving back from Greymouth

Crap... just read that a biker did die on the road between Greymouth and Chch, hit a bridge and unrelated to any of my comments

[JMemonic]

Hmmmmmm... ya know driving back from Greymouth, and driving there for that matter loaded with race bikes and watching from a cager's view for a change, theres some right twats that shouldnt be alowd to ride, as a cage driver I wouldnt want to shear the costs of my ACC levie.

There was a serious acco on the way over, chopper called in and all, on the way back a wrecked TL lay on the road side, a compleat idiot on a early intruder was passing constently on blind bends (11km of twisties east of Aurthers) and knob on a nakid SV1000 passed me up the virerduct while there were oncomming cars... the list goes on, and ya know what having re passed these riders at the next servo... they were all older than me and I aint no spring chicken.
Kinda reinforces my 1st post.

I came back today, Lewis pass for us, coming into Reefton a cage decided to overtake a camper on a blind bend, they made it but it was close. We were cut off several times by cages that seemed to overtake without looking in the mirror to see if there was another vehicle engaged in overtaking, these guys you mention on bikes are as bad in a cage.

What I am trying to figure is why the cops look so interested in me at 108-110K/h but dont blink at the 4x4 with a L plate towing a large trailer at 110-120K/h.

[300weatherby]

Like Akaroa gp route,ride it quickly sometimes,but not stupidly,I get rid of my "go fast,look at me" on the track- Harley riders for the most part really piss me off,they often actually believe they are somehow skilled and fast on bikes that steer,stop and handle- I ride lines that protect me from campervans and Harley riders on blind corners,both have a complete inability to stay on their own side of the road,in the case of the usual Harley rider,this is for two reasons -
1:The Harley is not designed for fast riding in a close environment like tight winding roads(or the track),they are a big heavyweight cruiser intended for freeway cruising in the States,and boulavard posing
2:The typical Harley guy doesn't get himself educated in the bigger picture,and learn how to make it happen safely

LISTEN UP HARLEY PEOPLE!
Rule no 1:Start your corner out wide,it gives maximum vision angles to see everthing oncoming and suprises on the road in front,you buy time to act on what you see

ie:Approach a blind, or any, right hander from the far left of your lane and looking through the corner you can see all you need to avoid crap on the road,or oncoming over the centreline,turn it a little later and you can bring it back into the centre third of the road as you apex late instead of early and every body is safer,including you,and you just might discover it is faster and the line more enjoyable than lumbering all the way round ON or OVER the centreline risking control,your life,and anybody oncoming!

Left hander is opposite- start your entry out near the centre(if safe to be there...) and turn it late to the inside left,you will discover that as you go in,the line continues to take you away from anything oncoming and gives you room and time to stand it up for something unexpected on the road...

Plenty of Jap/Ducati/whatever riders could learn that as well,just the Harley people are the worst-proper riding skills can be taught,give Mainland Rding School a try,you will be suprised at what you don't actually know...

I don't believe in luck,I believe in descision and consequence

Four bikes parked in Akaroa near a Harley- a Busa,a 916,a ZX10R and an R1,the Harley guy announces that none of them could pull the skin off a rice pudding compared to his 1450 Steamshovel,think I'll get me one of them so I can get a ride in MotoGP and smoke Rossi.......Now where's my fan....

[bikemike]

I was amazed at the riding on the way back from Greymouth. On way up Otira I was waiting for an overtake to be safe when hard as nails rider came up the inside of me, pulled across the front of me and took his overtake from there, past a campervan. Then on the way down into Arthurs he and his follower overtook on that gravel stretch, one of them going round the next camper on a downhill left hander.....

Now, I wasn't slow coming up the first half of the hill, well up front of a group coming up over the viaduct, and then pulled off for the view. But isn't staying alive knowing when to slow up?

Also saw the green bike in the hedge on the way over on Saturday. DOC staff told me on Monday he was lucky to live - an argument with a car and lost a lot of blood. Not corroborated.

Then there was the cruiser - assume Harley - that left the lane on a left hand drop over a crest. Went straight into the barrier by looks of things. That was heading home from Arthurs.

I usually ride places, and times, where I am overtaking almost everything on the open road. It was quite a revelation to see what goes on at other times. I possibly hit 120 / 130 max on the way back. I remember only passing two bikes; a couple of well kitted up riders on modern machines who had just been phased by a mob of cruisers I was following. Anyway, I waited as I became next to pass and then passed as they kept left and waved me to pass, and I gave them a wave of thanks.

All other bikes were passing me, and it would have been 90% cruisers, 10% other - being mostly BMWs, Ducatis and Triumphs.

Of all the cruiser/bruiser bikes passing me, two stood out as being patient and fast and smooth - they were patched!

Once on the straights, all the cruisers pulled well over 140, and straights or not there was a lot of crossing solid yellows too.

I got waved by the green cop car coming in by Yaldhurst, I was doing 110. ??! Thinks he was in the wrong place.

What's a big cruiser bike with a triangular tail LED cluster? All over the shop.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

I was amazed at the riding on the way back from Greymouth. On way up Otira I was waiting for an overtake to be safe when hard as nails rider came up the inside of me, pulled across the front of me and took his overtake from there, past a campervan. Then on the way down into Arthurs he and his follower overtook on that gravel stretch, one of them going round the next camper on a downhill left hander.....

Now, I wasn't slow coming up the first half of the hill, well up front of a group coming up over the viaduct, and then pulled off for the view. But isn't staying alive knowing when to slow up?

Also saw the green bike in the hedge on the way over on Saturday. DOC staff told me on Monday he was lucky to live - an argument with a car and lost a lot of blood. Not corroborated.

Then there was the cruiser - assume Harley - that left the lane on a left hand drop over a crest. Went straight into the barrier by looks of things. That was heading home from Arthurs.

I usually ride places, and times, where I am overtaking almost everything on the open road. It was quite a revelation to see what goes on at other times. I possibly hit 120 / 130 max on the way back. I remember only passing two bikes; a couple of well kitted up riders on modern machines who had just been phased by a mob of cruisers I was following. Anyway, I waited as I became next to pass and then passed as they kept left and waved me to pass, and I gave them a wave of thanks.

All other bikes were passing me, and it would have been 90% cruisers, 10% other - being mostly BMWs, Ducatis and Triumphs.

Of all the cruiser/bruiser bikes passing me, two stood out as being patient and fast and smooth - they were patched!

Once on the straights, all the cruisers pulled well over 140, and straights or not there was a lot of crossing solid yellows too.

I got waved by the green cop car coming in by Yaldhurst, I was doing 110. ??! Thinks he was in the wrong place.

What's a big cruiser bike with a triangular tail LED cluster? All over the shop.

We see all this kind of shit... then we wonder why ACC want to put our levy's

[swbarnett]

Hmmmmmm... ya know driving back from Greymouth, and driving there for that matter loaded with race bikes and watching from a cager's view for a change, theres some right twats that shouldnt be alowd to ride, as a cage driver I wouldnt want to shear the costs of my ACC levie.

The whole point of ACC is that half the population could turn in to self mutulators and the population as a whole still would cover the cost EVENLY!

The antics of the idiot bikers of which you speak would have nothing whatsoever to do with the size of our ACC levies if the original principle of ACC was adhered to by the idiot beaurocrats.

Why single out groups on vehicle type? Why not race? By any definition it's discrimination.

[dangerous]

What I am trying to figure is why the cops look so interested in me at 108-110K/h but dont blink at the 4x4 with a L plate towing a large trailer at 110-120K/h.

cos speed kills not idiot driving... ohhh and theres money to be made in speeders, did you need ask

these guys you mention on bikes are as bad in a cage.

I know had a sill girl out and passing on a yellow blinder... but we are talking about bikers here

On way up Otira I was waiting for an overtake to be safe when hard as nails rider came up the inside of me, pulled across the front of me and took his overtake from there, past a campervan. Then on the way down into Arthurs he and his follower overtook on that gravel stretch, one of them going round the next camper on a downhill left hander.....

Also saw the green bike in the hedge on the way over on Saturday. DOC staff told me on Monday he was lucky to live - an argument with a car and lost a lot of blood.

Then there was the cruiser - assume Harley - that left the lane on a left hand drop over a crest. Went straight into the barrier by looks of things. That was heading home from Arthurs.

unreal aye... ok I know it was the 1st spring ride for a few and I know the weather was mint all putting the rider in a frenzy of enjoyment specially after a good w/e at Grey, and I know how cages etc can bugger that up for ya right when ya want to hook into some curleys... BUT every action has a reaction and on two wheels, that reaction can end terably.