Our own worst enemy

[dangerous]

I believe it was 16 bikers have died this year alone so that's one every 5 days. That's absolutely shocking when you think about it.

I'm still adamant that bikers are killing themselves

I agree, that was the point right at the begining of the thread... we are doing it to our selves, and I will protest because it affects the beter riders amoungest us.. we all will pay in the long run.


Carver... what a dick.

[gammaguy]

i enjoy road riding,which for a person who has done a lot of road racing seems to be unusual.

i am sick and tired of going for a ride to,say.Akaroa,on a sunday afternoon,and being accosted by some perfectly nice person in a shop or cafe and being asked why i ride a motorcycle when all those that do are"idiots"or "maniacs".

I patiently explain that not all riders are like that,and listen to their stories of dickheads overtaking on blind corners,cutting them off,actually hitting the side of their cars in some cases,and also belligerent and aggresive behaviour.

Our public image is tarnished for sure,and it pisses me off that a minority of overconfident,underskilled and downright stupid assholes on bikes are spoiling it for the rest of us.

with a bit of luck they will wipe themselves out/scare themselves to death/write their bikes off /whatever,and leave the roads once again to those of us who take riding seriously as the art and science that it is,and the public perception of riders will rise as a result.

I just hope they dont take anyone else with them on the way down.

Fat chance

[scumdog]

most bins wins!

finally!

As I said earlier, wins WHAT?

A flasher headstone???

[BiK3RChiK]

As I said earlier, wins WHAT?

A flasher headstone???

Hopefully it's only their own headstone! No-one elses...

[Mikkel]

As I said earlier, wins WHAT?

A flasher headstone???

Don't worry. It seems a lot of people haven't realised that life is a slow race to the finish line.

[MotoGirl]

with a bit of luck they will wipe themselves out/scare themselves to death/write their bikes off /whatever

Sometimes, I agree with this. But is it evil to wish something nasty upon someone just because he or she rides like a dick?

People just don't seem to learn from their mistakes and I wonder why they don't heed the warnings. An example of this is my (fuckwit) bro-in-law. He had a big crash a few years ago but he still rides over 200kph everywhere, often on one wheel. Maybe I'm just daft but I would expect anyone who has seriously injured themselves to realise the implications of riding liking a demon and having it all come undone.

I also wonder whether there's a pattern in the attitude of the bikers dying on the roads (from the perspective of being suicidal/homocidal as opposed to being killed by an oncoming bike). For all I know, they could be people with an attitude like my bro-in-law's where they have the mentality that they're good riders who know it all; where they are fast and can't learn anything because they're already a legend in their own mind. Those who shoot down anyone who suggests they slow down or stop riding while stoned/pissed.

Whaddaya reckon?

[_Shrek_]

I'm still adamant that bikers are killing themselves .

the trouble is it's not just themselves, on the way home tonight I had two bikes pull out & start to overtake five cars the only problem was I was coming towards them with three vehicles behind me & if we hadn't moved over.... mmmmm the mess

but the two thought they were so cool with their open faced helmets & dark shads, this is where road rage should me legal so you can drag these AH's off their bikes & the crap out of them

[_Shrek_]

Same, but I'm not born-again, I'm still wearing the same shit I was when I was 20.
I really need to grow up and get some Cordura!!!

wish i could wear the same shit but when i tried the leathers on a while back they had shrunk must have been wet when i put them away

[MotoGirl]

this is where road rage should me legal so you can drag these AH's off their bikes & the crap out of them

You could almost liken this to gangs where they deal with problem members within the club. I'm suggesting that bikers could deal with the poor behaviour of other bikers. Why are we scared of hitting someone up for riding like a tosser so choose to say and do nothing? If you were in the safety of your cage I bet you'd honk your horn and flip the bird if you saw the same kind of action from another driver.

[_Shrek_]

You could almost liken this to gangs where they deal with problem members within the club. I'm suggesting that bikers could deal with the poor behaviour of other bikers. Why are we scared of hitting someone up for riding like a tosser so choose to say and do nothing? If you were in the safety of your cage I bet you'd honk your horn and flip the bird if you saw the same kind of action from another driver.

if I'd been in my cage I wouldn't have moved over

[mikeey01]

Things must change, how though?

[Katman]

Things must change, how though?

I think it starts with responsible motorcyclists making it plain that irresponsible motorcycle riding is unacceptable.

As I've said before, drink driving is now seen as totally unacceptable largely through peer pressure.

[mikeey01]

I think it starts with responsible motorcyclists making it plain that irresponsible motorcycle riding is unacceptable.

As I've said before, drink driving is now seen as totally unacceptable largely through peer pressure.

mmm change a social habit, I think your on to something there!
I like the thought.

[carver]

Carver... what a dick.

i do flaunt mine a bit~!

As I said earlier, wins WHAT?

A flasher headstone???

yes, looser pays!

[FJRider]

I think it starts with responsible motorcyclists making it plain that irresponsible motorcycle riding is unacceptable.

As I've said before, drink driving is now seen as totally unacceptable largely through peer pressure.

There are too many in positions of authority in the policy/law making process, that believe that ...irresponsible...and motorcycle riding, is not a contradiction in terms.

Drink driving is only seen as unacceptable to those that DONT.