What is the best way to be noticed by cagers?

[James Deuce]

True, even supermarket trolly boys wear them..but they're very conspicuous at night time so I can see their value.

The only problem with that is that humans are colour blind in low light situations, like night. In a well lit carpark you'll see the orange. Otherwise it will be the white reflective strips and you're not supposed to have a rearward facing white light or reflector on a vehicle. No worries for a pedestrian.

[Headbanger]

I'll have the check my bike jacket, I would hope its got a light reflecting strip on the back, Though I suppose it hasn't if its outlawed.

Is it just me or is there just far too many regulations?

[Horse]

That particular piece of research which is sponsored by 3M. Who make Hi-Vis vests. And medical products. I've already de-bunked that one previously.

Really? From the paper:

Funding: Health Research Council of New Zealand (HRC) and the Accident Rehabilitation and Compensation Insurance Corporation (ACC). BM was the recipient of an HRC Training Fellowship. The Injury Prevention Research Centre and the Injury Prevention Research Unit were both jointly funded by the HRC and ACC at the time of the study.

Competing interests: None declared.

Ethical approval: The study was approved by the Northern Regional Health Authority Ethics Committee.

Please explain where 3M came into it?

No research is without a particular sponsor with a particular axe to grind anymore.

Ignoring scientific research because you don't like the outcomes is called "superstition" or "religion". Not something I have a lot of truck with, personally.

[Elysium]

Is it just me or is there just far too many regulations?

That's dangerous talk, it's against regulations to question.

[Chooky]

Yer..modulators are attention get'rs.
They only work on high beam and have a daylight sensor so dont work at night.
Stick some tape over the sensor when you go for a WOF.
I only use mine when I need to...like sunday arvo when all the cager's are racing back from coro to jafa land and overtaking even when there's oncoming traffic...There nothing like a flashing light to bring them back into line..

You can get them from here

http://www.kisantech.com/

[Genestho]

Sorry to burst bubbles, but Leon had very loud pipes 2into 1's which were very effective when changing down a gear as a heads up when following cars.
He had been riding for over 20 years starting in Moto-X, he was a defensive rider conscious of the danger on our roads..in some situations an aggressive rider to remove himself from danger.

Simon had 3/4's white leathers and I believe a white helmet, they both rode with lights on during the day.

If a driver has his "eyes shut" and "brain out to lunch", none of it matters

You can the best rider in the world with all the bells and whistles, but when your faced with oncoming traffic, if they aint looking - your screwed. IMHO

How to change that? Apart from riding in groups or having a truck ahead of you with flashing lights...I really dont know..sorry.

[Swoop]

What you need is one of those flags that kids used to put on their bikes!

They were called a "Chopper Guard".

[Blackshear]

They were called a "Chopper Guard".

I so goddamn want one of those. Right after I buy a nautilus.

[Hitcher]

So what is the answer?

Get yer ya-ya's out.

[Madness]

True, even supermarket trolly boys wear them..but they're very conspicuous at night time so I can see their value.

Their value lies in their ability when worn to keep OSH happy in this nanny state of ours.

[Boob Johnson]

I got taken out by an 18yr old girl a year & a half ago, she saw me coming with my head light on (during the day) from a mile away & still pulled out on me. She said she thought I was further away still & hadn't looked back to check then just pulled out right on top of me.

Ive read lots of threads since about how to better protect myself from such inexperienced morons. You can weave from side to side (in some situations, not all obviously) but this won't save you if they aren't looking your way (like in the above mentioned case). Flickering head lights as some have mentioned, white riding gear, patched riding gear (lol) or even fluro vests ()


Personally ive targeted another sense........audio. One thing that is a lot harder for cagers to ignore. Went down to see Matthew Meads of "Meads Speed" in Hawera (Taranaki) & asked him to build me a loud as fuck can. Works a treat & sounds fricken awesome, especially on the over run, she growls, pops n cackles back down the revs, bloody marvelous Cage drivers always look in the rear mirror when I approach now

Had a Swiss biker here at the lodge just a few days ago & he had a badge sown onto his jacket...

"LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES"

Spot on

No doubt the silly tart that took me out would have heard me coming otherwise

[SixPackBack]

Sorry to burst bubbles, but Leon had very loud pipes 2into 1's which were very effective when changing down a gear as a heads up when following cars.
He had been riding for over 20 years starting in Moto-X, he was a defensive rider conscious of the danger on our roads..in some situations an aggressive rider to remove himself from danger.

Simon had 3/4's white leathers and I believe a white helmet, they both rode with lights on during the day.

If a driver has his "eyes shut" and "brain out to lunch", none of it matters

You can the best rider in the world with all the bells and whistles, but when your faced with oncoming traffic, if they aint looking - your screwed. IMHO

How to change that? Apart from riding in groups or having a truck ahead of you with flashing lights...I really dont know..sorry.

I do high K's in and around Auckland and in my experience the inclusion of a 6 foot high throbbing pink penis coated in gallons of jism and grafted to my helmet would make little difference to visibility.....fuckers just do not look!

[MsKABC]

I got taken out by an 18yr old girl a year & a half ago, she saw me coming .... still pulled out on me. She said she thought I was further away ....then just pulled out right on top of me.

Sorry, I must have a dirty mind

[Headbanger]

....fuckers just do not look!

And then we get ACC sponsored adds claiming bikes appear out of nowhere.

No they fuckin don't, they came down the damn road, in plain sight,we were there the entire time.

Don't just look twice, look fucking properly, and give way to the motorcycle.

It would be a different story if after knocking us off our bikes we got to eat their babies.

[Genestho]

I do high K's in and around Auckland and in my experience the inclusion of a 6 foot high throbbing pink penis coated in gallons of jism and grafted to my helmet would make little difference to visibility.....fuckers just do not look!

Lol, are you sure? How do you really know? Have you tried it?