Great news - Maori only beaches in NZ

[Headbanger]

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Thats WTF it has to do with beaches ....


Stephen

Nothing????

[NUTBAR]

Yeah...I am pissed off about it...heck they will start with a few east cape beaches to start off with, then over time they will start taking beach after beach since a precedent has been set....

We are all supposedly "one people"...aint that what they try to preach?...until it is better off for the maori to play the race card! .....Reverse Racism is what it is!

they already did fence of the beach at te kaha a few years back, then turned around and said that they would never do that?

[Big Dave]

Hi guys , I`m Maori ,and I think a large percentage of all this hoo-haa is crap.

So you guys can have my share of the beach ,I hate the fuckin beach , I hate seafood and I hate the fact the all of us ca`nt go to the beach( any beach)And most of all I hate Racism in any form , I`ve seen both sides of it and nobody wins nor benefits. Rant Over

To be honest I`d rather be riding my bike past the fuckin thing. Are there any Maori owned roads I can ride on? ( tarsealed , with twisties?)

How much for the Snapper?

[Ixion]

You may want to check that Ixion?

Look up "Riparian Rights" or check details on the Queens Chain and boundaries pre-1990.

Riparian rights , as regards the sea , grant the holder certain rights such as the right to erect a wharf or jetty, the right to launch a boat, to spread nets to dry etc. They do not generally extend below high water mark. Nor, in any cases do they confer ownership of the foreshore, nor do they grant an exclusive right (ie the holder cannot bar access to others , if they do not encroach on land owned by the holder).Riparian rights confer extra rights on the holder, they do not remove the general rights of the public.

Riparian rights on inland waterways are somewhat different , especially non navigable one, which is why I carefully excluded estuaries.

The Queens chain is exactly that - a strip of land vested in the Crown. If there is a Queens chain , then the public have access. This is relevant to the question of ACCESS, not to that of OWNERSHIP

There may be some very old titles which do grant ownership to the foreshore betwixt the tides. Some dodgy things happened in colonial days. I do not think there would be many such , firstly just on the basis of age, and secondly because even in England, since the middle ages the Crown has been very jealous of granting away ownership of the foreshore. It has very rarely happened even in 600 years.

There are areas of beach where access is forbidden under Defence Acts etc, eg those controlled by the Navy. That is a different matter.

(BTW, note carefully my definition of 'beach' as that area between high and low tides. there may be cases where sand, dunes, etc extend well inland, above high water mark. These may well be private property, just as if they were grassy fields. High water mark is the boundary. )

[jtzzr]

How much for the Snapper?

How much do you want? In tonnes

[Big Dave]

How much do you want? In tonnes

Anything that starts with 0.000 should be fine thanks!

[jtzzr]

Anything that starts with 0.000 should be fine thanks!

Done , when they question you tell them I said you could have my share.

[Brian d marge]

Nothing????

Please dont vote

[Swampdonkey]

There is no such thing as the queens chain.
There are a few properties around here with riparian rights,access to beachs along from them is forbidden.(take a boat).
Im own Oyster leases ,which were leased off the crown,MAF controlled.
They are now coastal permits , run by a pack of numpties from regional council. Stalin would of been proud of them...polictical agenda to rid all marine farming.....Give me Maori control of foreshore and seabed anyday. Stop all mineing rights sand and miniral etc..and aquaculture been sold off shore.

[Headbanger]

Please dont vote

That would be don't

Anything else I can help you with, Like the fact the mob and Brazilian poverty have nothing in a million years of hell to do with this thread, You just let me know OK, always happy to help.

[FJRider]

>>Also known as The NZ Christmas Tree, and it is called such because....???????<<

It flowers at christmas time...

[Brian d marge]

That would be don't

Anything else I can help you with, Like the fact the mob and Brazilian poverty have nothing in a million years of hell to do with this thread, You just let me know OK, always happy to help.

No they share similar features , but we assume that they also would be restricted from the beach

[Big Dave]

Done , when they question you tell them I said you could have my share.

Ha! You know, I've been involved with the YMCA in one form or another for 20 years.
I currently teach 10 to 16 year olds the finer points of Basketball a few hours a week - respect and understanding are also part of the coaching.

There is a poster on the stairs with a picture of a white, brown and asian kid in their soccer uniforms - covered in mud - arms around each other's shoulders - celebrating a famous win.

The caption is 'what they learn here doesn't wash off'.

It's why I go there. It's paid me back tenfold. Sometimes in fish. Mostly in friendship. Me and Stevie 'The Black Flash' turned a NSW community on it's ear one time - but that is another legend. :-)

[roy.nz]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10552397

and if you white bastards dont keep of - the NZ g'ment will chase you off with a $5000 fine.

Fucken brillant.

And now people will say that south africans are a racist bunch with aparthied, well guess what that happened ages ago and now NZ is having its own version, who the racist mother fuckers now?? NZ is moving towards the aparthied era.
And i thought i left all that shit behind. Im sorry its going to be like lend a hand and they'l take the whole arm.
Sorry im racist sometimes have to be honest but im not that bad that i want white only beach's.
Fuck this lets all shift over to Aussi

[roy.nz]

I want a whites only beach now..... They fucked up with the treaty so why should we pay for that now?? Take you a bet im goona get called racist for saying i want a whites only beach, then the indian fella wants his own beach the asian fella and so one. This shit fucks me off.