'Rider down' threads for strangers - yes or no?

**jrandom** · 15th January 2009, 16:12

As y'all know, we get a fair number of Police comms bulletins and/or general news articles, advising that someone-or-other just died on a motorcycle somewhere in NZ.

There are those who are all about getting those pasted up ASAP on the forum, and there are those who think that that's just ghoulish bullshit.

Note that I'm not talking about discussing incidents of our friends and family amongst KB. Of course we're going to discuss stuff that happens to people we know, and of course anyone close to someone who is injured or killed on a motorcycle has every right to lead that discussion here.

But rushing to put up a thread just because someone whom you've never heard of in your life binned and/or died on a bike?

What do y'all reckon?

**Katman** · 15th January 2009, 16:18

Originally Posted by jrandom

But rushing to put up a thread just because someone whom you've never heard of in your life binned and/or died on a bike?

What do y'all reckon?

It's obscene.

(Can't vote).

**Tank** · 15th January 2009, 16:20

Im not allowed to vote (infractions and all).

But Im all for stopping them.

If its a KB'er and we know them - then we can follow their wishes in their CPanel settings.

As it is - Its entirely possible we could have a thread started about 'a stranger' who actually is a KB'er (people just didnt know) but who had indicated they didnt want it discussed under any circumstances.

I just find it sad - and insincere when people RIP for someone they have no idea of who it is and happily forget about it 5 mins later. It cheapens threads when its someone the KB community know.

my 2c.

**Tank** · 15th January 2009, 16:22

BTW - Mods - If this gets a result strongly one way or the other - are you willing to discuss making it a rule?

edit: Or not - depending on the result (noting my own bias in original post)

**Quasievil** · 15th January 2009, 16:24

Voted No

sick of it, same goes with Binned it threads.

**Hiflyer** · 15th January 2009, 16:26

Originally Posted by Quasievil

Voted No

sick of it, same goes with Binned it threads.

unless theres something important to learn from?? or just no binned threads at all whatsoever

**vifferman** · 15th January 2009, 16:26

There's something maudlin (and ultimately meaningless) about people posting wishy-washy sentiments in response, like, "My heart/thoughts go out to the family". WTF does that mean?
Does it help?
Maybe if the bereaved one's family reads it, and they can say, "Hey - that's kind; "gheyhondarider" is thinking of us". But otherwise, it's just meaningless drivel, probably posted just to say, "Look! I care! I'm not a heartless bitch/bastard!".
Or even worse - just posting some dots: ................
Special memorial dots?

I'm sure we ALL feel something - a little lurch of realisation "that could've been me", or a reminder of our mortality, that moves us to post, "RIP fellow rider", but then aren't we just posting for ourselves if we do that?

**ManDownUnder** · 15th January 2009, 16:27

It's public information released by officialdom - this is merely a portal for that information.

I hit yes for that reason alone.

**Madness** · 15th January 2009, 16:27

I don't have a problem with it.

I won't vote as I think the Poll is biased to the point where it's a joke.

**Tank** · 15th January 2009, 16:31

Originally Posted by Hiflyer

unless theres something important to learn from?? or just no binned threads at all whatsoever

The beauty of KB is that there is plenty you can learn without having to have a death involved.

Seriously - I don't think I have ever learnt anything new from a RIP thread.

Using today's example - Bikers ran into a Tanker and someone died.

Well duh.

Was it road conditions, not looking, speed, was the rider txt'ing? Regardless of the cause - there is information about it on here - read the survival skills threads instead.

**gammaguy** · 15th January 2009, 16:31

if it makes anyone think even for a split second that they dont want it to be them next time,then it is not posted in vain.i voted yes.

**Ixion** · 15th January 2009, 16:32

Oh yes. Think of the huge reduction in the road toll. Because, of course, if you don't read about it, it never happened. Now, how to get the pesky press to stop publishing the reports. Then no biker will ever die. Hurrah. Welcome to Ostrich Central .

**James Deuce** · 15th January 2009, 16:32

Originally Posted by Hiflyer

unless theres something important to learn from?? or just no binned threads at all whatsoever

There's almost never anything to learn from binned threads. About 1% of people who post a binned thread actually demonstrate that they knew what they'd done wrong and what they've learned from it.

The rest either glory in it or won't discuss the details due to the insurance fraud they're about to commit.

**mister.koz** · 15th January 2009, 16:34

Voted yes, i got allot of friends around on bikes and knowing that someone in Waikato has had a nasty spill is important to me so I can text/call my friends and make sure they are alright, today i got a pile of coms from mates seeing if i was alright.

**Hiflyer** · 15th January 2009, 16:38

Originally Posted by Tank

The beauty of KB is that there is plenty you can learn without having to have a death involved.

Seriously - I don't think I have ever learnt anything new from a RIP thread.

Using today's example - Bikers ran into a Tanker and someone died.

Well duh.

Was it road conditions, not looking, speed, was the rider txt'ing? Regardless of the cause - there is information about it on here - read the survival skills threads instead.

k well maybe these threads should be posted in the survival skills forum (the binning not the death ones) i think that a thread like Darklords thread was very helpful and eye opening, and it only lasted like 2 pages so maybe

threads that are helpful = stay

threads that arent = removed by mods??

Just a thought really