Coppers and traffic enforcment

[spudchucka]

The only problem with that Spud is that he will be posting on this forum in a few years complaining about what pricks cops are and how he has experienced shit that we can't understand - where is WINJA anyway?
Maybe you should have a separate wee office where someone poses as God to tell these kids off?

It wasn't that much of a telling off. The wee chap was already worked into a frenzy by the time his dad had drag him into the shop. I guess it will depend on parental input as to how the boy recalls the moment in later life?

[vifferman]

It wasn't that much of a telling off. The wee chap was already worked into a frenzy by the time his dad had drag him into the shop. I guess it will depend on parental input as to how the boy recalls the moment in later life?

Heh... at the races at Paeroa on Sunday, a couple of uniformed officers walked past where we were sitting. A small boy behind me said in a loudish voice, "Dad - are they coming to lock me up?"

[spudchucka]

Heh... at the races at Paeroa on Sunday, a couple of uniformed officers walked past where we were sitting. A small boy behind me said in a loudish voice, "Dad - are they coming to lock me up?"

I guess that would mean that dear old dad has been locked up more than a few times in the past and junior has been around to see it. Sad.

[crashe]

I guess that would mean that dear old dad has been locked up more than a few times in the past and junior has been around to see it. Sad.

or it means the kid has been a right royal shit... and dad has threatened him as a last resort with the cops coming to lock him up if he dont behave himself... and then the cops walk past.....

[750Y]

Oh wait, so they diverted a car directly to you out of its normal district to deal with your problem

no

and yet you still blame them for not caring?

did i?

And if there had been a so-called traffic car free you can guarantee they would have gone/been sent to that job also if they were close.

can i?

But of course its easier to make assumptions, after all isn't that what the herald on Sunday teaches you?

is it?

lmao, you are a funny guy...

back to the other issue tho,
i am concerned about the fact that these firearms may not have been stored correctly. anyone else out there with firearms please secure them appropriately.

[scumdog]

back to the other issue tho,
i am concerned about the fact that these firearms may not have been stored correctly. anyone else out there with firearms please secure them appropriately.

Gun security is a must but think of this; there have been more people killed with stolen cars/bikes than stolen firearms.

And how much effort is put into vehicle security? :spudwhat:

[bikerboy]

Why didn't you ring 111? Wasn't it an emergency? Didn't you want immediate response?........The civilian you spoke to was probably in charge of lost property and wouldn't even have had a clue about what the local police units were doing at the time.

Yeah it is always someone else's fault, right?

Are the police in the habit of hiring complete idiots that know fu*k all about why they are there, what the actual police are doing, or what they should be doing when the public calls? That's a rhetorical question Spud. (that means you don't reply).

This post was about a robbery involving guns and the lack of police attendance/interest. Why are the integrety of the member and the facts questioned. If you don't believe them, just ignore the post. No need to say it's bullshit or the person didn't do this right or bla bla bla.

Sorry to here about the robbery, glad no one was hurt and I hope the Police catch the bastards. Cause like it or not the police are all there is to protect the citizens.

Oh and one more thing, while it is no secret that I'm less than impressed with the Traffic cops and their fascist attitudes, I do have a tremendous amount of respect/admiration for the police that are trying to keep us safe. It's a dangerous and difficult job.

If resources are the issue, seems to me it is far more important to deal with crimes first, and speeding offences when the other more serious matters are dealt with in a more timely fashion.

[scumdog]

It wasn't a "robbery", it was a theft/burglary but not a robbery, the victims were not present, did not see the offender, etc.

[spudchucka]

Are the police in the habit of hiring complete idiots that know fu*k all about why they are there, what the actual police are doing, or what they should be doing when the public calls? That's a rhetorical question Spud. (that means you don't reply).

You don't drop a clanger like that and say "don't reply".

What do you know about the civilian that was spoken to? Was it the cleaner? Was it the telephonist? Maybe it was a computer operator? Does that make them a complete idiot who doesn't know why they are there? No it fucken doesn't!

Should these people be aware of where all the police units are at any stage of the day? No, its not their job. However the communicator at the other end of the 111 call does know where all of the polcie units are at any particular time of the day. Why? Because its their job.

Its simple. If there is an emergency, ring 111. It is the quickest and easiest way to have contact with a police officer. If its not an emergency then go to the police station to report it. In the case of a burglary the police need to attend the scene, leaving it and going to the police station is just lengthening the process

If resources are the issue, seems to me it is far more important to deal with crimes first, and speeding offences when the other more serious matters are dealt with in a more timely fashion.

Guess what would have happened if they had phoned 111? That's a rhetorical question bikerboy. (that means you don't reply)

[Coldkiwi]

Guess what would have happened if they had phoned 111? That's a rhetorical question bikerboy. (that means you don't reply)

thats ok, BB, I'll do it for you (I know the answer) ,or at least I think I do.... something about a taxi right?


Lets not pretend that the 111 system is as infalliable as it should be either eh?

[ManDownUnder]

From what I can see - it's the system, not necessarily the people that have the shortcomings.

That being said I know people aren't perfect (which is why the system is there to address any shortcomings individuals bring to the party).

From what I know, the cops are doing the best job they can, at the direction of those above them. Those attending the 111 calls are doing the best they can considering any limitations they have put upon them.

Anyone expecting to go through life with everything working around them is dreaming. It'd be nice, and things do go well most of the time... but isn't that the very reason why 111 class with problems hit the news?

I'm not saying ignore it - no way. I'm saying deal with it. Learn from it, make changes necessary to make sure it don't happen again and lay the blame where it resides.

To be honest - I wouldn't want to be a cop. It'd be damned hard work, dangerous and full of paperwork (well that's my perception anyway). As for being a 111 operator or police dispatcher... one wrong call and someone could die?!?

Yeesh.. no thanks.

Let's not beat the crap out of each on this stuff... aren't we big enough to establish where problems actually exist, where our differences of opinion actually are and live with it. I see no point in having a heart attack over it.

... concilliatory rant over...
MDU

[Skunk]

Let's not beat the crap out of each on this stuff... aren't we big enough to establish where problems actually exist, where our differences of opinion actually are and live with it. I see no point in having a heart attack over it.

... concilliatory rant over...
MDU

I don't know if anyone's listening 'cos you're making too much sense...

[spudchucka]

thats ok, BB, I'll do it for you (I know the answer) ,or at least I think I do.... something about a taxi right?


Lets not pretend that the 111 system is as infalliable as it should be either eh?

No one is saying its infallible but in this instance it would have appropriate system to use and the better option.

If bikerboy wants to berate the civilian, non-sworn police employees, say that they know fuck all about why they are there, what to do when the public calls and what they actual police are doing, then he should have some understanding of what he is talking about. Which clearly he doesn't!

[scumdog]

I don't know if anyone's listening 'cos you're making too much sense...

I agree, this site is on its way to Hell in a handcart if we allow sense like this to be posted....

More brainless needed to entertain us.

[750Y]

Gun security is a must but think of this; there have been more people killed with stolen cars/bikes than stolen firearms.

And how much effort is put into vehicle security? :spudwhat:

that's a really interesting point scumdog. never even though about it before...
any practical suggestions about securing a motorvehicle? immoblisers/alarms/steering wheel locks etc? what in your experience has been the most effective?