For f#@#k's sake

[Maha]

Usaully they approach at such a speed from behind that they havent been noticed in the mirrors yet, one small swerve by me within MY riding space and its all over for both of us.

Some have paid the ultimate penalty for riding with 'only themselves' in mind.

[Katman]

While, of course, it's essential to be aware of what is happening behind you, it's a fact that by far the greatest risk to motorcyclists (in theory) exists within the 150 degree arc in front of you and that is where the majority of your attention should be focused.

Motorcycles approaching from behind at twice the speed of the vehicle in front can seemingly appear out of nowhere.

If we think that New Zealanders, generally speaking, have a poor attitude towards their driving habits, exactly the same could (and should) be said about the riding habits of New Zealand motorcyclists.

[ManDownUnder]

So you dig ditches for a living then

Between jobs as a cabbie...?

[dipshit]

But the wankers that for whatever reason choose to pass others ,cars and bikes, with less than a foot gap are really starting to fuck me off. This shit is happening even when the other lane is is clear. Can someone tell me what the point is?.

I have tried asking the likes of Beyond around here why they overtake like that - yet they don't give any reason why they do.

So fucked if i know.

[Kickaha]

Aint that why we all Kiwibikers???

Kiwibikerwhinelikeabitch.co.nz would be more appropriate

Why the fuck shouldn't we have the right to condemn other motorcyclists who impose themselves upon our safety zone?

After all, isn't that exactly what all motorcyclists seem to do when it's a car driver that does the same thing?

Fuck off noddy, all motorcyclists have a god given gift to do as they please regardless of the double standard they present

[AD345]

Why the fuck shouldn't we have the right to condemn other motorcyclists who impose themselves upon our safety zone?

After all, isn't that exactly what all motorcyclists seem to do when it's a car driver that does the same thing?

One day you are going to put forth an argument without recourse to swearing - I doubt I'll live long enough.

Condemnation of other motorists (lets not confine ourselves just to motorcyclists) is far less effective than simply working on improving our own road manners and skills.
Its not a right to condemn BTW - its a right to speak. Those that choose to exercise their right only in the pursuit of condemnation would seem only to increase the likelihood of the onset of ulcers.

I get sprotsbikes whommmmping past me every day - often on one wheel (which just looks childish btw). The biggest lesson I take out of it is to constantly work on improving my situational awareness to 360 degrees. I empathise completely with the OP and if, on one day of karmic restoration, I actually find myself able to come across the riders in question I may be even more unrestrained in my remonstration (you bring out the mulit-syllabic in me Katman).

The intent of my post was to point out the glass walls of these discussions and perhaps get some actual debate going rather than polarised argument.

I realise that may be a novel concept for ya.

[Katman]

One day you are going to put forth an argument without recourse to swearing - I doubt I'll live long enough.

When I start posting on the Central Crotchet Club's website I'll try to remember your aversion to swearing.

Until then - harden the fuck up.

[AD345]

When I start posting on the Central Crotchet Club's website I'll try to remember your aversion to swearing.

Until then - harden the fuck up.

Pussy - ya wouldn't make a prospects bum at the CCC. Those old birds have been swearing for 90 years

[Katman]

Pussy - ya wouldn't make a prospects bum at the CCC. Those old birds have been swearing for 90 years

And it still offends you?

[Molly]

And whilst we're ranting, I'm f**ked off with cyclists that try to undertake on twisty downhill roads, totally stealing my line. You can argue that I should be going faster but you can chuck a mountain bike through a tight bend much faster than a 600lb Harley.

Oh, and small dick drivers that accelerate when being overtaken and put two wheels on the centre line just to make it that bit harder. What's to say it wasn't some cock like this that initiated the accident that took three lives near Christchurch before Christmas?

Rant over.

[AD345]

And it still offends you?

I didn't say it offends me - it just does your argument a disservice to start out that way is all.

I realise you probably use it for emphasis but its lazy mate and you've got things that are worth saying without irritating the audience right from the get-go.

For fucks sake

[thepom]

Hey Katman,think you,ve got a hook in your lip.....

[Katman]

Oh, and small dick drivers that accelerate when being overtaken and put two wheels on the centre line just to make it that bit harder. What's to say it wasn't some cock like this that initiated the accident that took three lives near Christchurch before Christmas?

I, and countless other motorcyclists, have encountered car drivers that seem to have an irrepressible hatred for motorcyclists.

As I've asked before - where do you think that hatred has stemmed from?

[AD345]

And whilst we're ranting, I'm f**ked off with cyclists that try to undertake on twisty downhill roads, totally stealing my line. You can argue that I should be going faster but you can chuck a mountain bike through a tight bend much faster than a 600lb Harley.
Rant over.

Jesus Christ

Now I've gotta look out for cyclists as well???

I'm so glad I didnt get the Softail after all




(P/T)

[jtzzr]