Female officer beaten until unrecognisable by teen

[imdying]

oh sorry, are we playing "My Dad's bigger than your Dad"?

Smilie denotes humour retard, get with the program And you think I missed the point

[yod]

Smilie denotes humour retard, get with the program And you think I missed the point

retard?

awesome

what a nice chap you are

my Dad's still bigger than yours

[Dean]

I watch cops regularly, and I know for a fact, that american cops are trained farken well, and iv'e seen many times American cops over-powered/out faught by a crimminal....think about it......

In this case, remember she was chasing him, he probably turned on her as she was running at him, try and handle an asp at full speed chasing someone, have them turn on you and use it effectively....come-on, it's not like the cops are trained as blackbelts! Get over the fact that he was 16 too, he was probably the size of a 20 year old Islander......

how hard is it if youre chasing someone at full speed and some person turns around on you.youd tackle them or even if you werent trying to youd still run in to them and bowl them over anyway.in the force we got a few jerry collins who can put in some mean tackles.the whole purpose would be to tackle them anyway if there running from you.even if the guy was a big islander a tackle to the legs at full speed and samoan brige is fallin down.

[Dean]

but the easyiest way she could of got him down was by grabbing a batton and smacking him in the gonads.no man can get up from that and if they can well id question there gender and manhood!

[Drogen Omen]

Time for Shoot the Fuckers first and ask questionas later...

There was a time when i was thinking about being a cop. now i say fuck that.

cops get no public support. fuckin accidents happen get over it.

Like that 17 year old that got shot last friday. unfortunat but shit happens. the cop was just doing his job.

[firefighter]

i would suggest she'd had a damn sight more training than him

and she had a weapon

he had a towel

perhaps she should have followed from a distance

I think- no, you did miss the point completely.

Training can only do so much for you, when someone is so much larger than you.

According to your statement, all white cops, because they would probably get a hiding from our big Islander friends if they were on 'p', in a one-on one confrontation, are in-capable of doing their jobs and should quit.....because according to your genius because of their training (do you think they become juiitsu black belts?) and wee asp batton they should be able to win this confrontation.

This police woman could probably happily take down most females, and smaller men.

[firefighter]

how hard is it if youre chasing someone at full speed and some person turns around on you.youd tackle them or even if you werent trying to youd still run in to them and bowl them over anyway.in the force we got a few jerry collins who can put in some mean tackles.the whole purpose would be to tackle them anyway if there running from you.even if the guy was a big islander a tackle to the legs at full speed and samoan brige is fallin down.

I'm a blue belt in juijitsu, iv'e had a playfight (er, no nothing gay lol) with one of the guys at work, who is a fucken giant, and due to his shear size I can't get a good arm bar on or anything, he can just bend his arm- and i'm not tiny......

point is that, this cop is probably not a big woman, the kid got the upper hand, he could have moved aside- whatever, and beat this woman, that does'nt mean she can't do her job, it just makes her human, it's all very well sitting in ya chair talking about how it should have gone down, but she was chasing him, in the dark, no time to plan out anything, chase, turn, fuck, smack. Could be just as simple as that, except the kid kept hitting her, it's easy to tackle something that does'nt move but I doubt he stood there waiting for her to clean tackle him!

[Hitcher]

So does the baying mob today want Police officers to be routinely armed?

[samgab]

So does the baying mob today want Police officers to be routinely armed?

You see, it's all a very carefully orchestrated exercise in social engineering. Popular opinion swings against police because they shoot a 17yo non-offender (I hesitate to use the word "innocent"), so a few days later they send their petite little female officer in to take a beating from a 16yo, so social opinion will swing around to "Police should carry guns and use them after all"...

Other conspiracy theories will also be considered.

[MSTRS:Me]

cops get no public support.

No wonder. It's the traffic side that has caused most of that. And mistakes by so-called highly trained professionals.

Like that 17 year old that got shot last friday. unfortunate but shit happens. the cop was just doing his job.

If doing your job requires the possibility of using lethal force, then 'cocking up' should not be an option.
I've not read any of the reports re the m/way incident, but the number one rule with firearms - 'Identify your target' - should have covered that. Buck Fever, anyone?

[Tank]

I think- no, you did miss the point completely.

Training can only do so much for you, when someone is so much larger than you.

Indeed - and anyone who says different is talking tripe.

I fought competitively for years - Karate, Muay Thai, and boxing. I have a left hook that can drop most fuckers - even if I have to hit them a few times to make them go down.

So - all in all I would consider myself far higher trained than the majority of police and more experienced than most martial artist - having been out there fighting at a reasonably high level for a long time (note - Im old and fat now)

So having said all that - I've had some terrible hidings - and lost plenty of fights. All the worst hidings I have had have ALL been from people with no formal training - and the very worst of them was from a scrawny little prick.

Some people are natural fighters - others have mass on their side - and while skill levels help - generally the bigger guy will always win. And I would say that almost every woman - trained or not will lose to a guy who is physically bigger and stronger 100% of the time.

[yod]

Stop making assumptions....

I think- no, you did miss the point completely.

no we're talking across purposes here

Training can only do so much for you, when someone is so much larger than you.

I'm not talking only about combat here. If someone is so much larger than you, don't you think adhering to training that probably includes advice along the lines of "If you don't think you can handle them, don't take them on directly/without backup" is probably wise?
I would suggest her judgement on whether she could handle the situation was poor, point in case.

According to your statement, all white cops, because they would probably get a hiding from our big Islander friends if they were on 'p', in a one-on one confrontation, are in-capable of doing their jobs and should quit.....because according to your genius because of their training (do you think they become juiitsu black belts?) and wee asp batton they should be able to win this confrontation.

I can only assume you a referring to this proposition: "...if she is properly trained, then perhaps being a police officer isn't the vocation for her...given that she clearly couldnt deal with the situation..."

which pretty plainly suggests that; perhaps being a frontline cop isn't the ideal undertaking for someone (male or female), who can't handle a skinny teenager (whatever the reason is)

whether you're white, brown, pink or blue, on p, weed, beer or jungle juice doesn't have anything to do with it

This police woman could probably happily take down most females, and smaller men.

But obviously not this guy, so, perhaps taking a different course of action (rather than confronting the aforementioned 'skinny' 16yr old) would have proved less harmful.

[Tank]

I'm not talking only about combat here. If someone is so much larger than you, don't you think adhering to training that probably includes advice along the lines of "If you don't think you can handle them, don't take them on directly/without backup" is probably wise?
I would suggest her judgement on whether she could handle the situation was poor, point in case.

.

You raise some good points yod - but we dont know the situation and we all (me inc) shouldnt make too many judgements.

It may well be that whe was following and that the guy turned on her, caught her unawares and she didnt have time to get out of the way.

Either way - its a tragic thing to happen to someone who is out there in the community trying to do good and help people.

[firefighter]

But obviously not this guy, so, perhaps taking a different course of action (rather than confronting the aforementioned 'skinny' 16yr old) would have proved less harmful.

Like what? let him get away in case he can fight?

read tank's post above.....it's a good read really.

Her job is to apprehend the offender, most of the time the offender would'nt turn around and start trying to beat the living snot out of you, rather just get away. She can't pick and choose her battles, just make the best of the situation which lays before her, it's a dangerous job, she was caught out, this does'nt make her incapable, it's happened before, and will happen again, that does'nt make an officer in-capable, just out-foxed.

As tank states above, his worst hiding was from a "srawny little prick", you have no idea of someones fighting ability until you engage them, and obviously this little shit had some ability, be it strength (skinny does not mean weak) or skill.

[The Stranger:Me]

But seriously, imagine if this officer had've had a gun, and had actually shot this naked, unarmed, "defenceless" 16yo boy...
Image the media circus then!

Or if during the beating he grabbed her gun and shot her.
Yes, arm the police. It fixes everything.