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    Biker dies from energy drinks

    Tragic news from Australia.

    http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclen...mail&attr=news

    I don't know where the full story is but it seems they are blaming the caffeine at this moment which is odd as I have been known to consume 8 esspressos one after t'other when doing long shifts, studying or (ahem) before a cycle race. I suspect it's the combination of stimulants in the drinks but it's something to be wary of (I've worked with a few people that knock back huge quantities of energy drinks every day)
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    Crikey, better slow down on the V drinks

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    I get the impression he drank them in a very short space of time between races. It seems an excessive ammount of fluid to drink anyway...maybe he was dehydrated?
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    Well you can drown from drinking too much, I believe.


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    Well each one i've encountered does say on the side "max 2 cans daily" or words to that effect.

    *shrug*. It's like that chick who chewed gum constantly then complained when it was making her sick.

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    So presumably the cause of death hasn't been determined yet? Seem a bit rich to blame energy drinks per se.

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    It is possible to overdose on Caffine, anything more than 200mg (which is about 1/5th the size of a panadol tablet) can be deadly.

    Basically it cases issues with the heart=heart stops pumping.

    The guy who died probably didn't even know he was overdosing, as the signs and symptoms could have been masked because he was racing, and that brings a increased sense of activity.

    Although it is rare, it is more common in people who are using other drugs (both illegal and legal).

    And yes, it is possible to die from drinking to much water, although rare in everyday situations, people who take Ecstasy, frequently die from drinking to much water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Road Guardian View Post
    It is possible to overdose on Caffine, anything more than 200mg (which is about 1/5th the size of a panadol tablet) can be deadly.
    You probably mean 2,000mg. And that is neither remotely correct, nor a fixed amount; Wikipedia says that the LD50 (the toxic dose at which 50% mortality is expected) for oral caffeine is 192mg/kg in rats, so if humans have a similar sensitivity that'd be over 15,000mg for an 80kg male.

    That's 150 No Doz tablets, 150 330ml bottles of V, etc.

    If seven energy drinks killed this guy, it wasn't through caffeine overdose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Road Guardian View Post
    And yes, it is possible to die from drinking to much water, although rare in everyday situations, people who take Ecstasy, frequently die from drinking to much water.
    It happens more often to competitive athletes than drug users, and the condition is called hyponatremia.
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    It's not the caffeine it's the Vit B3. B3 (Niacin) is a vasodilator, can cause blood pressure to drop. Some (rare) people are particularly sensitive to it, and react more than normal. The sudden blood pressure drop caused by drinking a lot real fast can cause a heart stoppage, especially if the heart is already under load.
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    I would also think the caffeine story is bullshit. I, too, swoff down multiple espressos a day, and after (now ex!) girlfriend crapping on about caffeine killing me I read a bit. Apparently, even in serious double-shot high-concentration espresso doses, you'll go into a coma long before you'll actually die. Once you go into a coma you can't keep drinking espresso, of course, so it's self-limiting, like trying to hold your breath to commit suicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    It's not the caffeine it's the Vit B3. B3 (Niacin) is a vasodilator, can cause blood pressure to drop. Some (rare) people are particularly sensitive to it, and react more than normal. The sudden blood pressure drop caused by drinking a lot real fast can cause a heart stoppage, especially if the heart is already under load.
    How do you know so much, Ixion?

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    He's older than time itself. You get to collect a lot of stuff when you've been around that long!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badjelly View Post
    How do you know so much, Ixion?
    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    He's older than time itself. You get to collect a lot of stuff when you've been around that long!
    But you tend to forget where you put it!

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    Warnings on the can/bottle about not consuming more than two a day. Also warnings not to consume them while pregnant. I know someone whos step sister used to drink alot of energy drinks on a daily basis, her hair started to fall out. She stopped drinking them, and sure enough her hair stopped falling out. I used to drink V-drinks alot, ended up to the point half way through my first one I would start vomitting severely.

    Mouthwash has been linked to mouthcancer. Talcom powder has been linked to cervical/ovarian cancer (yes people stop smothering your babies in talcom powder). There is so much "shit" being pumped into our food and drinks these days so really nothing would suprise me. If excessive amounts of caffiene can cause you to have a miscarriage who knows what else it could cause when consumed by the right/wrong person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    It's not the caffeine it's the Vit B3. B3 (Niacin) is a vasodilator, can cause blood pressure to drop. Some (rare) people are particularly sensitive to it, and react more than normal. The sudden blood pressure drop caused by drinking a lot real fast can cause a heart stoppage, especially if the heart is already under load.
    yep, i had a coworker die at 19 after an already bad/damaged heart [born like it i think] was loaded with a large number of energy drinks. he died of heart failure. im picking him being a smoker didnt help either.
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