Have your say on motorbike safety in Queensland

**Ms Piggy** · 9th May 2008, 07:07

Received this from a friend who rides in Aussie.

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Minister for Transport, Trade, Employment and Industrial Relations
The Honourable John Mickel
06/05/2008
Have your say on motorbike safety in Queensland
A consultation paper is being launched seeking public input into ways to
improve motorbike rider safety on the roads.

Minister for Transport John Mickel said 75 people died as a result of
motorbike crashes last year. He said Queensland Transport had launched the
paper to gather information on road safety issues facing riders.

"While motorbike riders are a relatively small proportion of road users,
they are over-represented in injury and fatal crashes,'' Mr Mickel said.

"Motorbike riders are four and half times more likely to be involved in a
crash and are 30 times more likely to be killed than other vehicle
drivers,'' he said.

The consultation paper outlines a number of proposals and gives the
community the chance to suggest ways to improve motorbike safety.

The consultation process will close on Friday, May 30.

Proposals in the consultation paper include:

introducing practical pre-learner training, requiring a person to complete
an off-road basic motorbike handling course before being granted a
learner licence

introducing a separate moped licence

improving rider safety through protective clothing or clothing to
increase visibility to other road users

reducing the number of dormant licence holders

improving road conditions for motorbike riders.

Copies of the consultation paper can be obtained at

www.transport.qld.gov.au/motorbike_safety or by phoning 3253 4910.

Ministerial contacts: Shannon Mackay 3237 1125

May 5, 2008

**BadCompany** · 10th May 2008, 19:24

If you drive a car, your aware of the risks. If you ride a bike, your aware of the risks.

Whats the difference?
Am I missing something?

Maybe the thing we should be focusing on, is the car drivers awareness? How many times have you been cut off? How many times has someone indicated and immediatly changed lanes in front of you?

**dangerous** · 10th May 2008, 19:36

Originally Posted by Celtic_Sea_lily

75 people died as a result of
motorbike crashes last year. He said Queensland Transport had launched the
paper to gather information on road safety issues facing riders.

Having lived there I would have thought that 75 was kinda low... hell Mt Glorious takes out a 1/4 of that on its own.

Id like to know the stats on the sort of bikes that they are diying on ie: scooters, tourers, sports... in town or on the open rd.

**dipshit** · 10th May 2008, 19:54

Originally Posted by BadCompany

Am I missing something?

Yes,

"While motorbike riders are a relatively small proportion of road users,
they are over-represented in injury and fatal crashes,''

Maybe the thing we should be focusing on, is the car drivers awareness? How many times have you been cut off? How many times has someone indicated and immediatly changed lanes in front of you?

BS.. The the single biggest killer of motorcyclists, is motorcyclists losing control of their bikes and failing to take corners etc.

The longer motorcyclists keep denying this simple fact and continue to blame "fucking changes" or the "stupid roads", the longer the carnage and poor statistics will continue... until inevitably the authorities will do something about it to save us from ourselves.

**dipshit** · 10th May 2008, 19:57

Originally Posted by dangerous

Id like to know the stats on the sort of bikes that they are diying on ie: scooters, tourers, sports... in town or on the open rd.

Doesn't "hell Mt Glorious takes out a 1/4 of that on its own." give you some clue ?

**dangerous** · 10th May 2008, 20:26

Originally Posted by dipshit

BS.. The the single biggest killer of motorcyclists, is motorcyclists losing control of their bikes and failing to take corners etc.

Na... I dont believe that, check out the stats... most are killed by colision other cars etc, mostly cars pulling out. But yes the biker may have been speeding... Id say SFA deaths are due to "motorcyclists losing control of their bikes and failing to take corners" they usually just get a hell of a hiding.
This is why I said Id like to see the QLD stats.

**onearmedbandit** · 10th May 2008, 20:35

Originally Posted by dipshit

Yes,

BS.. The the single biggest killer of motorcyclists, is motorcyclists losing control of their bikes and failing to take corners etc.

The longer motorcyclists keep denying this simple fact and continue to blame "fucking changes" or the "stupid roads", the longer the carnage and poor statistics will continue... until inevitably the authorities will do something about it to save us from ourselves.

Originally Posted by dangerous

Na... I dont believe that, check out the stats... most are killed by colision other cars etc, mostly cars pulling out. But yes the biker may have been speeding... Id say SFA deaths are due to "motorcyclists losing control of their bikes and failing to take corners" they usually just get a hell of a hiding.
This is why I said Id like to see the QLD stats.

**BadCompany** · 10th May 2008, 20:59

Originally Posted by dipshit

Yes,
BS.. The the single biggest killer of motorcyclists, is motorcyclists losing control of their bikes and failing to take corners etc.

The longer motorcyclists keep denying this simple fact and continue to blame "fucking changes" or the "stupid roads", the longer the carnage and poor statistics will continue... until inevitably the authorities will do something about it to save us from ourselves.

How often are we in the position to be taking a corner fast enough to cock it up?

I've been cut off, or hit by more cars then corners I've cocked up. And I use my bike as sole transport and for weekend rides.

Why do we need to save us from ourselves? If we are losing control of our bikes, we must be giving it a bit off stick. So we know we are taking a risk in the first place, so In the end don't we just have our selfs to blame?

**dipshit** · 10th May 2008, 21:26

Originally Posted by dangerous

Na... I dont believe that, check out the stats... most are killed by colision other cars etc, mostly cars pulling out. But yes the biker may have been speeding... Id say SFA deaths are due to "motorcyclists losing control of their bikes and failing to take corners" they usually just get a hell of a hiding.

See...
http://www.transport.govt.nz/assets/...et-July-07.pdf

Particularly this bit...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/at...4&d=1203415414

Between 2002 and 2006 165 motorcyclists were killed on NZ roads.

The biggest killer was... Lost control / run off road, 50.

Next was Intersections with 42.

Then Head ons with 41.

Australian stats have been very similar to NZ's

**dipshit** · 10th May 2008, 21:29

Originally Posted by BadCompany

How often are we in the position to be taking a corner fast enough to cock it up?

You will find when you move up from your 250, that it can be as often as you like.

**Big Dave** · 10th May 2008, 21:36

Originally Posted by Celtic_Sea_lily

clothing to
increase visibility to other road users

Compulsory dress like a lollipop is on the way.

**dangerous** · 10th May 2008, 21:40

Originally Posted by dipshit

Between 2002 and 2006 165 motorcyclists were killed on NZ roads.

The biggest killer was... Lost control / run off road, 50.

Next was Intersections with 42.

Then Head ons with 41.

Australian stats have been very similar to NZ's

Thats Dorkland stats mate... we know beter down here

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Compulsory dress like a lollipop is on the way.

Like fuk it is...

**dipshit** · 10th May 2008, 21:48

Originally Posted by dangerous

Thats Dorkland stats mate... we know beter down here

I think you'll find they are New Zealand stats.

**BadCompany** · 10th May 2008, 21:52

Originally Posted by dipshit

See...
http://www.transport.govt.nz/assets/...et-July-07.pdf

Particularly this bit...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/at...4&d=1203415414

Between 2002 and 2006 165 motorcyclists were killed on NZ roads.

The biggest killer was... Lost control / run off road, 50.

Next was Intersections with 42.

Then Head ons with 41.

Australian stats have been very similar to NZ's

Well I stand corrected then.

Originally Posted by dipshit

You will find when you move up from your 250, that it can be as often as you like.

It can be as often as I like now, but traffic doesn't always allow it when riding to and from work. Which was sort of the point I was trying to make. But I see statistics have me beat.

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Compulsory dress like a lollipop is on the way.

Then not only will I have to dress like a lollipop at work, I'll have to do it while going to and from work? Fuck that.