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    yeah but the problem is

    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
    Wearing protective gear definitely helps you heaps in an "off".......
    There can be no arguments against that...., the more protective shit you strap on, the greater the likelyhood of bodybits staying attached and useable...

    The other and only real argument of course is, do we need legislation for and against any- and everything that is/ or may or will/ likely be bad /painfull/hurtfull or uncomfortable for us...?

    My personal opinion is that people should be responsible for their own wellbeing,
    Anything however that could negatively impact on others needs gobbermental regulations...
    if we let people sort them selves out them people dont wear gear more injuries and biking gets a bad name again as dumb arses fall off with no helmets then die.

    the end result of this is the govt ie the man looks at all of us and imposes more regulations and al sorts of other bulsh$%t to keep us safe.

    dont give them a reason to have more speeding blitz's for revenue gathering and give them an excuse to say it is just for our safety!

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    oh I was in Melbourne

    a couple of weeks ago for the WSBK and was talking to one of the guys in the bike shop there.
    a customer came in and asked what he needed to ride so the guys in the shop sold him boots jacket helmet pants etc.
    a couple of days later the guy turned up and returned al of his gear bar the helmet stating that is all he Legally needed to ride a bike.

    this guy had a accident a couple of hours later doing 100kms his head was fine but he wil be in hospital for a we while as he has lost most of his skin over 60% of his body two broken ankles and a few other injuries I wonder how he would have been if he hadt returned all of that gear?

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    Have many times stupidly riden my bike to school with just my helmet, gloves and uniform and once without my helmet. A few days ago i heard about teens my age that were killed with no gear on in uniform on 250s going back to their houses, it really made me think i could of been one of those. I cant imagine the pain the horror of wearing no helmet when in a crash.

    My gear is everything to me, without my leathers im naked, im nothing. Mind you i still need boots so im a piece of shit at the moment.

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    I ride with my gear on as well.....

    But does it have to be mandatory?

    The government knows what's good for me better then I know myself...?

    I don't think for myself....I just obey orders?

    No thanks!
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    I hope you are all strapping your helmet on when you hop in your car.

    As racing driver all know, the biggest killer in a car crash is the head injury you get when your head hits the dash, A or B pillars.
    David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davereid View Post
    I hope you are all strapping your helmet on when you hop in your car.

    As racing driver all know, the biggest killer in a car crash is the head injury you get when your head hits the dash, A or B pillars.
    Well, When I want to drive around the streets at up to 300km/hr I too will ensure my helmet is firmly fastened to my head inside my cage.
    Along with the five point harness and 3 layer flame suit....
    Amazing how the steering wheel gets out of the way for your head to hit the dash though....

    In my standard 4 wheel vehicle in an accident there is a chance of a head injury, but not as great....
    However on the bike, any off will result in lost skin....

    So for me, either my leathers/ cordura/ or at least draggan jeans are on the list of safety gear.... Gloves and boots are standard, but a choice on the others, depending on the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by want-a-harley View Post
    Well of course it is but in 2 days I have seen 3 people on bikes with out a helmet.

    Saw one guy on Otara Road last night booting along, noticed that he was just in shorts/t-shirt etc. Took me a second to notice he had no helmet as well.

    Today at the new world in Birkenhead a rider with pillion leaving, both without helmets (or any other gear obviously).

    Next recipient of the darwin awards?
    Well this chappy does'nt need a helmet!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNw2xMsB4GE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedrostt500 View Post
    There is a pic on rotten.com of a Biker missing the lower half his face yep every thing below the nostrils, I think of this image when I see some one with no helmet or an open face helmet.
    may be one of the smart ones can put a link to it for us.
    I have read elsewhere that the genius decided he could demonstrate how easy it was to set off a blasting cap by biting on it, with unsurprising results to everyone but him.

    I don't know if that's correct, but I do know that pic has popped up as evidence of more than one kind of injury. I wear a full face anyway

    I'll pass on linking it as I don't want to see it again!

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    Of course, I am playing deviils advoacae a bit here, but I think for some reason we assuming that helmets are more effective for motorcyclists than they are for car drivers and passengers...

    Quote Originally Posted by quickbuck View Post
    Well, When I want to drive around the streets at up to 300km/hr I too will ensure my helmet is firmly fastened to my head inside my cage.
    Along with the five point harness and 3 layer flame suit....
    Exactly how hard do you think you need to be going before you get a brain injury ? Your head can't tell if it hit the road after a 1.5m fall from your bike, or if it hit a B pillar after being T boned.

    Quote Originally Posted by quickbuck View Post
    Amazing how the steering wheel gets out of the way for your head to hit the dash though....
    Ahh, so your passenger sits on your knee then ?

    Quote Originally Posted by quickbuck View Post
    In my standard 4 wheel vehicle in an accident there is a chance of a head injury, but not as great....
    Toyotas Fumio Matsuoka, (project manager for vehicle safety) has done research showing that 47% of people who die in car accidents, do so of head injuries.

    Are you sure you don't need a helmet in your car ?
    David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakaway View Post
    just leave it be. I say we take all the restrictions off, take the warning labels off everything, and let the problem sort itself out.
    +1 - i am with you on that one!!!!!

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    There is a fairly easy test - I say this to serious cyclists too if they ask the stupid question - do helmets really protect you all that much?

    Here is the test.

    Get two williing participants (a control and the test, apparently they call it in scientific experiments).

    One with a reasonable quality helmet on, the other nothing.

    Take a hammer.

    Give them both a decent bang on the head with the hammer. Don't be shy.

    Observe results.

    Granted this is only really a test of whether a helmet will protect you regarding an impact to the head with a solid object - but, well I'm sure most people can draw their own conclusions.

    Yes, I'm being silly - but not as silly as riding without a helmet. At best you'll end up a retard. Worse, your brains will be left all over the road.

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    the retards out there who say there shouldnt be helmet laws can ride without them for all i care, its called natural selection and happens in the wild all the time, the STUPID get themselves removed from the gene pool, works out great for everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laxi View Post
    the retards out there who say there shouldnt be helmet laws can ride without them for all i care, its called natural selection and happens in the wild all the time, the STUPID get themselves removed from the gene pool, works out great for everyone!
    The stupid one would be you then Laxi.

    As you have chosen to ride a motorcycle, it makes you at least 16 times and up to 25 times more likely to die on the roads than a car driver.

    You failed the Darwin test by hopping on your mtorcycle instead of hopping in a car or getting the bus.

    The argument about the helmet fails, as quite simply it increases your chances of survival in a crash so marginally that you have to use a microscope on the data to detect the improvement.

    Not only did you fail the Darwin test, you failed the "I have a brain" test.

    You simply don't realise that you are arguing that only the safest way of doing things is acceptable. That is the very arguement that will take your motorcycle off you.

    To put it another way, you are exercising freedom of choice when you hop on a motorcycle, even though you know that you are taking a massive risk.

    Yet you are arguing that I am a fool for wanting freedom of choice about a helmet.

    If you cant see the irony, please go and buy a Subaru and stop lecturing me about my safety.
    David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.

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    FUCK ME
    HAVENT READ ALL the thread
    but i dont ride to letter box without a helmet
    And that is the honest truth your honour..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevfromcoro View Post
    FUCK ME
    HAVENT READ ALL the thread
    but i dont ride to letter box without a helmet
    Thats cool dude... wear a condom too.. just don't assume that you have the right to use force (the law) to stop me doing stuff, because it might be less safe than the stuff you do.

    Cos if you have that right, so does my mum.

    And she thinks motorcycles should be banned, as guess what, they are dangerous, and there are much better alternatives.

    Actually, my um has more rights than you, cos you are a motorcyclist. Thats a minority. And as my mum likes to remind me, its a democracy. If she and her pals want, they CAN ban dangerous bikes.

    Just got to do the boy racers first.
    David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.

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