someone explain a couple of road sighns

[avgas]

good one frosty!
best ones ive seen are "Slippery when wet" (DUH!!!!) and "SLOW CHILDREN" (Where!!!!!!!)

[marty]

all it comes down to the fact of the people resposible for testing/designing the road covering thier own ass. mainy beacuse if someone had an accident on that corner they are responsible.

since when? i've never heard of a road designer being charged with 'failing to design a good road, so someone fell off it and killed themselves' if that was the case, then the govt should be charged for the shambles that was SH1 meremere for so many years, their safety idea was to paint the shoulder, and put the opposing lanes CLOSER together. WTF?????

and then there's the wellington coast road (SH1)

[Rainbow Wizard]

As you can generally take 75km/h corners at 100k/m, those 95 signs mean "Slow down TO 120km/h"

Actually, you can probably take a 75k corner faster than 100k but you're not allowed to so the same probably applies to the 95k corners worse luck.

I know when I'm on the NTV that I can super safely and totally without any stress or concern take the corner in mph at what it reads in kph. That means I'm adding at least 60% to the rated speed, but you gotta remember those signs are an indication only of what is a safe and comfortable speed for an ordinary car.

I'd be really interested to read of what other riders add to those recommended speeds.

[Riff Raff]

I'd be really interested to read of what other riders add to those recommended speeds.

Well I'm still getting to know the capabilities of my bike - I've already answered the 95kph one (ahem), but today my bike was doing 80 - 90 on 55km bends quite happily, and dropped down to about 60ish on 35km bends.
So different from the cruiser where I pretty much had to do the speed posted.

[avgas]

I'd be really interested to read of what other riders add to those recommended speeds.

I learnt my lesson to ride my ride without using the road signs doing the kopu loop (ah the old stompin grounds) - whatch out there folks, some corners have 45 on them, and u are best not to break 70 on em (i did, it wasnt pretty), even knee down the twist in quite bad. And there is some corners there with no signs (so take em about 50 or less).
Cos some of those corners, if u fuck up, its a LONG WAY back to the road - like atleast a 100ft drop.
But in general, if i know the corners - up to 2 times the recommended speed, if i dont, up to 1.3ish time the reccomended speed.
But genrally no higher.

[Drunken Monkey]

mmmm - I guess it is not 95 degrees! Maybe they should have signs with degrees on the twisties. Would be great for getting lines right and a potential market for portable gyro's for bike dashs.....

Instead of speed limits they should all read like pace notes:

95, Keep left over crest into short 4 right plus opens

60, crest and 6 right plus and don't cut short 6 left minus

60, line into 2 right minus over bump tightens to a hairpin over a ditch

Into 6 left long opens over a crest

95, 6 right into 3 left plus long don't cut tightens to 1, into a short 1 right plus

short 2 left minus tightens at junction 35

[Drunken Monkey]

I'd be really interested to read of what other riders add to those recommended speeds.

If I drop the 5 then double, e.g. 65 - 5 = 60 x 2 = 120, I know the Gixxer will have no trouble assuming the road surface remains constant. This works on most roads. Simetimes lower ones, like 35's, I usually drop an extra 5-10, but that's more my comfort zone than a requirement for the bike. Don't actually recall if I've done a 95 at 180 though, probably more like 160-170.
Uphill on a reliable surface with warm tyres I can go more than double the slow speed signs (25/35) - and I've been passed by others doing that.

[sAsLEX]

Instead of speed limits they should all read like pace notes:

95, Keep left over crest into short 4 right plus opens

60, crest and 6 right plus and don't cut short 6 left minus

60, line into 2 right minus over bump tightens to a hairpin over a ditch

Into 6 left long opens over a crest

95, 6 right into 3 left plus long don't cut tightens to 1, into a short 1 right plus

short 2 left minus tightens at junction 35

We need to get JR to programme that into the next widget he makes imagine that flying along some unknown road with the voice of Nicky Grist giving you a running comentary on the road ahead!

[SPman]

..so "Frosty is Slippery when Shady" :spudwave:

or Slippery and Shady!



Think those advisory signs were designed for when people drove things like Austin A40 Somersets! Mind you, the way a lot of people drive, they may as well still be driving A40's.......

[The Pastor]

My fav sgin is coming back from whagas to aucks. Just before the brendwens (sp?)

"LOOK OUT TOILETS"

They are pretty sneaky so keep a keen eye out.

[Ms Piggy]

I loved the signs on the Takaka Hill Rd that said "WARNING. GRIT/ICE" I guess it covered all the bases.

[madandy]

or Slippery and Shady!



.......

Yeah, well I thought I'd let someone older and wiser add the "and"

[Ms Piggy]

I am pretty cautious when it comes to corners, but I find that you can relatively safely add between 35 and 45 km/h onto posted signs, if it's dry and clear.

Of course, thats not a rule for every corner!

I found down in the SI, especially down the West Coast between Motueka and Greymouth a lot of the speed signs were well below what you could do. I'm only saying this b/c I am a cautious rider & cornerer (is that a word?) and I found a lot of the 55, 45 & even some 35 signs I could go faster around - or maybe my cornering is improving!

[Wolf]

I found down in the SI, *SNIP* - or maybe my cornering is improving!

WARNING. WARNING. DANGER, Will Robinson! OLD FART ALERT:

Back in the olden days when they had a decent road South out of Taihape (before they went and made it "safe" for grannies in A40s) I knew I had finally got the feel of my "new" (to me, it was "second"-hand) CB360 owing to the way I was able to flick it from side to side up the winding road at a decent speed, at night time (approx. zero peripheral vision).

Nothing like a good long journey to get used to how your bike handles and your abilities with it.

Ahh, them were the days! [Yorkshire accent]You try to tell the kids of today and they won't believe ya [/ Yorkshire accent] etc etc

Only place I found the same feeling in recent years was visiting a friend in some of the hillier areas of Upper Hutt.

We need more places like that, not less.

[MSTRS:Me]

Oh thems were the days. Don't you wish the bikes performed like they do now? That road was the first time I saw a truck stuck fast under the old rail viaduct at the top of the hill out of Mangaweka - even letting tyres down didn't help. Never did find out how it got freed.