What's to know?

[Ray LeCheminant]

Heh, yeah your father already made me buy a ZPF rep from him, it'll be here before the weekend

Thanks for that, I did wonder if a flatter torque curve was just as important on a mini moto as it is on a regular bike, seemed likely that that would be the case.


So what does the 4.2 stand for? kW?

"Heh, yeah your father already made me buy a ZPF rep from him, it'll be here before the weekend "

Lol.....I specialize in stand over tactics...LOL....yeah, was speaking to Greg tonight....it's on its way....you will be amazed with the P O W E R

[DELLORTO]

thanks for that bit of encouragement Gadgit, it's much appreciated.

yes connor your definatly getting minimoto riding right i better watch out in a few months.... also its good your dad supports you.....you dont know how lucky you are.......i know heaps of kids your age you would do anything to have a shiny zpf pocket ibke and be sponsored.....

all you need now is more track time

[xtreme]

Hi Guys

Im with you on this one Imdying.
With the Xtreme bikes we have proved the HP isnt everything and that for us having excelent torque does it for us.
Last weekend for instance Orange used Aarons ZPF with the Oranges chinese Banshee engine in it. The only non Chinese bits on that bike are the coil, Sava tyres , GPT gauges and of course The Orange. In open he had a 1st , 2nd & a 3rd and in doing that he beat a POLINI 16HP ( Correct , Gadgit ??? ) GP3.
So Max as Gadgit said so many things come into it i cant see how you make these judgements on all things minimoto ??
From what i know at a practice day at times Connor could just beat Daniel and Daniel can beat you, so you must see the potential with the ZPT , Correct me if im wrong , so you see , so many factors come into it on the day

Cheers Greg

[Ray LeCheminant]

wow - 107 replies and over 1290 views.....this is a hot topic

[Ray LeCheminant]

Hi Guys

Im with you on this one Imdying.
With the Xtreme bikes we have proved the HP isnt everything and that for us having excelent torque does it for us.
Last weekend for instance Orange used Aarons ZPF with the Oranges chinese Banshee engine in it. The only non Chinese bits on that bike are the coil, Sava tyres , GPT gauges and of course The Orange. In open he had a 1st , 2nd & a 3rd and in doing that he beat a POLINI 16HP ( Correct , Gadgit ??? ) GP3.
So Max as Gadgit said so many things come into it i cant see how you make these judgements on all things minimoto ??
From what i know at a practice day at times Connor could just beat Daniel and Daniel can beat you, so you must see the potential with the ZPT , Correct me if im wrong , so you see , so many factors come into it on the day

Cheers Greg

"potential with the ZPT "

You inventing new models Greg - can I have one?

Regards always

GT

[Gadgit]

The Orange. In open he had a 1st , 2nd & a 3rd and in doing that he beat a POLINI 16HP ( Correct , Gadgit ??? ) GP3.

Cheers Greg

Haha yea Orange did well on the ZPF he's still a feather weight compaired to me (100kg) and John (somewhere round 85kg) so we need the rest of the power to keep up lol... and then theres the fact he's not bad on two wheels

[Ray LeCheminant]

Haha yea Orange did well on the ZPF he's still a feather weight compaired to me (100kg) and John (somewhere round 85kg) so we need the rest of the power to keep up lol... and then theres the fact he's not bad on two wheels

KFC is the answer Gadgit!!!!....us big fullah's need to stop eating it...or Orange needs to eat more of it.....

[motorbyclist]

i think what we can all take away from this thread is that pocket rockets are as much about the rider as the model

(and in my experience there is HUGE variability in the chinese bikes straight from the factory)

[xtreme]

i think what we can all take away from this thread is that pocket rockets are as much about the rider as the model
(and in my experience there is HUGE variability in the chinese bikes straight from the factory)

Motorbyclist , You are dead right !!!!!
Its almost like no 2 bikes are the same.

Ray , I/we can create any bike I like , Look at Aarons bike

Cheers Greg

[orange]

there is more in that zpf aswell

[imdying]

"Heh, yeah your father already made me buy a ZPF rep from him, it'll be here before the weekend "

Lol.....I specialize in stand over tactics...LOL....yeah, was speaking to Greg tonight....it's on its way....you will be amazed with the P O W E R

Amazed? It'll probably scare the crap outta me

yes connor your definatly getting minimoto riding right i better watch out in a few months.... also its good your dad supports you.....you dont know how lucky you are.......i know heaps of kids your age you would do anything to have a shiny zpf pocket ibke and be sponsored.....

You wanna be adopted?

wow - 107 replies and over 1290 views.....this is a hot topic

Well lets keep it rolling then... power aside for a moment, what's the deal with 'handling'. What's the difference in handling between the bikes? Seems like there's bugger all to the chassis, but things like bearing sizes must make some difference? I assume some brake better than others? What about tyres? Big bikes are extremely sensitive to tyres, does that apply here too?

[Gadgit]

Handling comes down to the rider because alot of the bikes are different sizes. I like the smaller chassis so ride a polini GP3 mini (smallest chassis along side the 4.2 jun) corners fast like it's on rails. The ZPF is a bigger bike all round suted to the rider that is not so flexiable there are alot of different chassis tho heres a few to google
Polini 4.2, 910, 911, GP3, GP4, GP5
Blata B1, 13R, 14WRS
ZPF Z1
Phantom
DM
Panzini
Theres a heap more and they all handle different and are different sizes, wheel base and peg posistion.

Tyres there are only two brands worth touching PMT and Sava both have different grades for different temps and weight.

[Ray LeCheminant]

Handling comes down to the rider because alot of the bikes are different sizes. I like the smaller chassis so ride a polini GP3 mini (smallest chassis along side the 4.2 jun) corners fast like it's on rails. The ZPF is a bigger bike all round suted to the rider that is not so flexiable there are alot of different chassis tho heres a few to google
Polini 4.2, 910, 911, GP3, GP4, GP5
Blata B1, 13R, 14WRS
ZPF Z1
Phantom
DM
Panzini
Theres a heap more and they all handle different and are different sizes, wheel base and peg posistion.

Tyres there are only two brands worth touching PMT and Sava both have different grades for different temps and weight.

Malcolm.....there is really only one tire out there.....S A V A !!!

[DELLORTO]

Malcolm.....there is really only one tire out there.....S A V A !!!

whats wrong with PMT?? you cant realy say PMT's are no good when you've never actauly used them

[Ray LeCheminant]

Never said they were no good!