Engineer bods, how can I repair my speedo drive?

[Ocean1]

it surprises me every day how much I hate autocad!

It occasionally occurs to me to wonder why anyone still uses it.

[Max Preload]

It occasionally occurs to me to wonder why anyone still uses it.

Only because it's quite literally a jack of all trades, master of none but it can be made to work for so many applications - more often than not it's let down by simple operator fault - lack of wilingness to attempt to understanding how it really works. It's getting worse in that respect - they're even gearing it for idiots with the so called 'features' that are being added with each release.

The fact is, no other software is so flexible - from plant layouts to tiny details, it can be used to convey the idea with minimal operator input. The amount of work that is required to detail even a simple silo in a parametric modelling program like Solidworks is mindblowing - you have to sort out the details before you can get a drawing of them that can be fabricated from and the chances of ever doing the same silo with minor changes again is all but non-existant. But with AutoCAD a good designer can whip one up in no time with no thought to how it might affect the model if they move a gullet for example - no problems with failed fillets etc.

But I'm rambling now.

[Max Preload]

The shape is right but either you doubled the dimensions or this software I downloaded has a bug.

I presume you mean Renegade's.

[Ixion]

Yes. Mr Renegade . He doubled it. Your one is fine as far as my ignorant eye can tell

So, I just put that on a memory stick, and take it into a place that does laser cutting and say "Mister, can I have one of these?" ? And they put in a puter, and a new speedo plate pops out the other end ?

The wonders of modern tehcnology. I bet they don't even have a BLOODY BIG HAMMER.

I'm sort of getting the hang of this software, must have a wee play.

Takes a shitload of puter power, but, I'll have to put it on the desktop at work. And revise the project timelines for the next few weeks.

[Ocean1]

Only because it's quite literally a jack of all trades, master of none but it can be made to work for so many applications - more often than not it's let down by simple operator fault - lack of wilingness to attempt to understanding how it really works. It's getting worse in that respect - they're even gearing it for idiots with the so called 'features' that are being added with each release.

The fact is, no other software is so flexible - from plant layouts to tiny details, it can be used to convey the idea with minimal operator input. The amount of work that is required to detail even a simple silo in a parametric modelling program like Solidworks is mindblowing - you have to sort out the details before you can get a drawing of them that can be fabricated from and the chances of ever doing the same silo with minor changes again is all but non-existant. But with AutoCAD a good designer can whip one up in no time with no thought to how it might affect the model if they move a gullet for example - no problems with failed fillets etc.

But I'm rambling now.

I dislike Autodesk's secondment of their product's development to their fear and loathing marketing strategy. Their development costs are exponentially larger than those required to simply create a good product because of their policies regarding redundancy, compatibility and format licencing. The tactic works to protect market share just as long as you have a certain critical mass. They no longer do, and sales have plummeted in the last few years.

It's a hardy app, I'll give it that. But comparing it to full-blown MCad apps is misleading, that's a different tool. If you want Acad flexibility in a true 3D environment without the restrictions inherent in constraints or the heavy input requirements of multiple nested pull-down menues then have a look at: http://www.rhino3d.com/

[Ocean1]

So, I just put that on a memory stick, and take it into a place that does laser cutting and say "Mister, can I have one of these?" ? And they put in a puter, and a new speedo plate pops out the other end ?

Why wouldn't you simply email it?

And ask him what the tolerances are.

[Max Preload]

Just ring them they'll tell you to email it, tell them the material (might as well make it 304 stainless or galvanised mild steel, although you can laser cut a huge range of materials - even MDF!). Leave it with them to nest on a job at their leisure with some other work of the same thickness and you might even get it done for free.

I dealt mostly with North Shore Laser Cutting and Sandvik (PRICEY!). NSLC were slower, but we were doing large stuff and supplying our own material (304 & 316 stainless mostly) and they're always busy.

I'll fire it off to some peeps tomorrow and see if they can nest it in with their next order too. Race ya! (Might not be much of a race though - don't know how much they're putting through ATM)

What's the software?

Yes. Mr Renegade . He doubled it. Your one is fine as far as my ignorant eye can tell

So, I just put that on a memory stick, and take it into a place that does laser cutting and say "Mister, can I have one of these?" ? And they put in a puter, and a new speedo plate pops out the other end ?

The wonders of modern tehcnology. I bet they don't even have a BLOODY BIG HAMMER.

I'm sort of getting the hang of this software, must have a wee play.

Takes a shitload of puter power, but, I'll have to put it on the desktop at work. And revise the project timelines for the next few weeks.

[ducatilover]

The amount of work that is required to detail even a simple silo in a parametric modelling program like Solidworks is mindblowing - you have to sort out the details before you can get a drawing of them that can be fabricated from and the chances of ever doing the same silo with minor changes again is all but non-existant. But with AutoCAD a good designer can whip one up in no time with no thought to how it might affect the model if they move a gullet for example - no problems with failed fillets etc.

But I'm rambling now.

my old man uses solid works better than i use toilet paper. he hates auto-cad.
but he is a tool maker and goodness knows what else

[Max Preload]

I dislike Autodesk's secondment of their product's development to their fear and loathing marketing strategy. Their development costs are exponentially larger than those required to simply create a good product because of their policies regarding redundancy, compatibility and format licencing. The tactic works to protect market share just as long as you have a certain critical mass. They no longer do, and sales have plummeted in the last few years.

It's a hardy app, I'll give it that. But comparing it to full-blown MCad apps is misleading, that's a different tool. If you want Acad flexibility in a true 3D environment without the restrictions inherent in constraints or the heavy input requirements of multiple nested pull-down menues then have a look at: http://www.rhino3d.com/

Don't get me wrong - I'm certainly no fan of Autodesk or their flakey products - it's just simply a case of it's what is used. It's flakey, overly complicated, excessively expensive and tedious to use at times, but it's everywhere. As a self-employed person, I must meet the market, and the market demands flexibility.

I've used Rhino a bit, but there's little point in wasting time learning it thoroughly simply because it's not used anywhere I've ever worked in NZ, and I've worked a lot of places.

Menus? Who uses menus? Or toolbars? Command line, all the way!

[Ocean1]

Don't get me wrong - I'm certainly no fan of Autodesk or their flakey products - it's just simply a case of it's what is used. It's flakey, overly complicated, excessively expensive and tedious to use at times, but it's everywhere. As a self-employed person, I must meet the market, and the market demands flexibility.

I've used Rhino a bit, but there's little point in wasting time learning it thoroughly simply because it's not used anywhere I've ever worked in NZ, and I've worked a lot of places.

Menus? Who uses menus? Or toolbars? Command line, all the way!

Almost any acad command works exactly the same in Rhino, there's other stuff, and a few wrinkles, but if you know acad you know most of the Rhino basics.

I'm not selling it, but I got a lot of work from other outfits wanting output from Pro E or SW or SE tidied up to CAM std. I could import almost anything, stitch up a few surface edges, delete a couple of duplicated entities, translate it to almost anything else and have it back in their inbox in minutes.

So it worked fine for me even though most of my clients and suppliers used something else. However, like any tool it's got to fit your hand eh?

[The Pastor]

The reason i hate cad is you are stuck in side all day

red line goes here

green line goes here

*****BOOM****

-eerie silence-

[FROSTY:Me]

Ixion--back to origonal issue. looks to me it would be a shit load easier to just create from braize a couple of flats. theres fuck all stress on em