Tiresome DR vs KLR comparisons

[Taz]

I'd guess that chart was created by a DR rider. A few revisions might be in order.
Farkleability DR 8? No way replacing broken gearboxes counts as a farkle
Range DR 6? No again, should be about 4. The DR (standard tank) runs out of gas before you get into third gear (at which point it's necessary to rebuild the gearbox, see above)
Roadability DR 7? And no yet again, should be about 4 as well; the vinyl crucifix (aka the seat) is the primary reason the tank is so small, they figured the riders would want (nay, NEED) to get off about the time the tank runs out. (Anyway, they'd have to - there's a gearbox to rebuild.)

I'd guess this post was created by a KLR owner

[JATZ]

I'd guess that chart was created by a DR rider. A few revisions might be in order.
Farkleability DR 8? No way replacing broken gearboxes counts as a farkle
Range DR 6? No again, should be about 4. The DR (standard tank) runs out of gas before you get into third gear (at which point it's necessary to rebuild the gearbox, see above)
Roadability DR 7? And no yet again, should be about 4 as well; the vinyl crucifix (aka the seat) is the primary reason the tank is so small, they figured the riders would want (nay, NEED) to get off about the time the tank runs out. (Anyway, they'd have to - there's a gearbox to rebuild.)

Suzuki engineering at it's best.

Y'see it all works together. Fuel up bike, go riding,run out of gas, but it's o'k 'cause you were gunna get off to give ya arse a rest, while ya resting re-build gearbox.

Brilliant :

[Transalper]

Got to admit pete376403 made me laugh. Very entertaining.
Unfortunately I messed up, with the big tank installed and modified seat I wasn't ready to stop when my gearbox blew up anyway.

[Oscar]

KLR650 / DR650 comparisons are not "apples with apples" comparisons.

The DR 650 is a 1980s(?) design, simple air cooled trailbike.

The KLR 650 is a heavier, water cooled, road orientated, dubiously styled...?bike.

The XF 650 (an underrated bike) should be compared to the KLR 650.

The DR 650, to the KLX 650.


...right then... anoraks on....let battle commence ...!!!

DR & KLR are in the same class - Adv bikes fer cheap cahnts class...

[warewolf]

That's that decided then - Nordie gets the "Anorak of the Year Award" for that table!

Shit... and it's only just February.

Well done that man!!

[Oscar]

That's that decided then - Nordie gets the "Anorak of the Year Award" for that table!

I wonder what Marks' table would look like in comparison??????????

I disagree.
Anyone who starts a thread about how not to compare KLR's and DR's is an überanorak

[Paladin]

I disagree.
Anyone who starts a thread about how not to compare KLR's and DR's is an überanorak

OOh you may have a point there!

[Paladin]

I'd guess that chart was created by a DR rider. A few revisions might be in order.
Farkleability DR 8? No way replacing broken gearboxes counts as a farkle
Range DR 6? No again, should be about 4. The DR (standard tank) runs out of gas before you get into third gear (at which point it's necessary to rebuild the gearbox, see above)
Roadability DR 7? And no yet again, should be about 4 as well; the vinyl crucifix (aka the seat) is the primary reason the tank is so small, they figured the riders would want (nay, NEED) to get off about the time the tank runs out. (Anyway, they'd have to - there's a gearbox to rebuild.)

I forgot to say...........




BRILLIANT - LMAO!!!!!

[RedKLR650]

I'd guess that chart was created by a DR rider. A few revisions might be in order.
Farkleability DR 8? No way replacing broken gearboxes counts as a farkle
Range DR 6? No again, should be about 4. The DR (standard tank) runs out of gas before you get into third gear (at which point it's necessary to rebuild the gearbox, see above)
Roadability DR 7? And no yet again, should be about 4 as well; the vinyl crucifix (aka the seat) is the primary reason the tank is so small, they figured the riders would want (nay, NEED) to get off about the time the tank runs out. (Anyway, they'd have to - there's a gearbox to rebuild.)

I don't personally I don't know of any DR owners with gearbox problems, but know quite a few DR owners, and those that ride them love them, just as I love my old style KLR

They complain about the seat and short range fuel tank on their bikes, and I complain about the weight when I'm trying to negotiate the KLR up a slippery clay track, but both are great low cost adventure bikes, each targeted at a different type on consumer

and as for reliability, I'd like to think they're about even.......

I am glad for the KLR's seat though, as tomorrow I leave for Christchurch ready to depart 6am saturday morning on the 2000+ km road ride this weekend, ( see the www.tt2000.org site )

I'll let you know how numb my bum feels by monday......

Cheers, Stu

[NordieBoy]

I'd guess that chart was created by a DR rider. A few revisions might be in order.
Farkleability DR 8? No way replacing broken gearboxes counts as a farkle
Range DR 6? No again, should be about 4. The DR (standard tank) runs out of gas before you get into third gear (at which point it's necessary to rebuild the gearbox, see above)
Roadability DR 7? And no yet again, should be about 4 as well; the vinyl crucifix (aka the seat) is the primary reason the tank is so small, they figured the riders would want (nay, NEED) to get off about the time the tank runs out. (Anyway, they'd have to - there's a gearbox to rebuild.)

Farkleability - Availability of aftermarket farkles. Tank for KLR?

Range - 250odd km is ok - not great but more than enough for the longest Dusty Butt section hence a 6. A DRZ would get a 4.

Roadability - Ability on the road. The DR is let down by the seat and lack of stock screen. But is still geared ok and stable on the road.


I've never re-bulit my gearbox? Dunno what you're talking about. < cough > Dohicky < /cough>

[NordieBoy]

Yeah am still waiting for you DR owners to comment on Marks' "the DR is a (very) poor mans 690E/640E" quote on the other thread!!!

I'd agree with him

[MXNUT]

Fluro anorak is on...

But my anorak don't know how to get rid of all this whitespace dammit...

	KLR650	KLX650	KLE500	DR650	XF650
Dirtability	5	8	3	6	4
Gravelability	6	8	5	8	5
Roadability	8	5	9	7	8
Seated Comfort	7	5	7	4	7
Standing Comfort	5	8	4	6	4
Range	8	5	7	6	7
Robustness	5	8	4	8	6
Maintainability	6	7	5	8	7
Farkleability	7	6	4	8	4
Adventurability	57	60	48	61	52

Nordie - the table needs revising, you left out the DRZ400

[RedKLR650]

Farkleability - Availability of aftermarket farkles. Tank for KLR?

Range - 250odd km is ok - not great but more than enough for the longest Dusty Butt section hence a 6. A DRZ would get a 4.

Roadability - Ability on the road. The DR is let down by the seat and lack of stock screen. But is still geared ok and stable on the road.


I've never re-bulit my gearbox? Dunno what you're talking about. < cough > Dohicky < /cough>

Actually Fran, an aftermarket tank for the KLR is available, with the radiator cowlings built in, ad in 1/2 doz different colours.....

Correct about the DR seat, but wouldn't even mention the screen as took mine off the KLR for a while to see if helmet noise caused by wind disturbance was reduced ...... Didn't make a bit of difference..... So no need for one on the DR

And as for the Doohicky, after a total of over 90,000kms on different KLRs, and I've yet to do the doohicky either ( must be a bit like DR gearboxes, only some are lemons....

Stu

[NordieBoy]

Do they do a tank for the 08 KLR's?

I like a small screen to get the wind pressure off my manly chest.

[clint640]

DR & KLR are in the same class - Adv bikes fer cheap cahnts class...

Yeah, trouble is the poor bastards don't realise that by the time they've added a big tank, reworked the shit suspension, replaced all the bits that bend as soon as you look at them, rebuilt the gearbox, fixed the doohicky, replaced the base gasket, added 1 L of oil every 1000km & modified the motor to try & improve the woeful power output, they're still not as good as a 640 &...

...It would have been cheaper to just buy a KTM


Clint