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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post



    Geez SPB - you challenge the integrity of ALL lawyers, and he responds? You didn't see that coming?

    This rings a bell..... kinda like an ALL cops are arseholes/anti cop thread, but its an anti lawyer one for a change... Oh hang on... it is an anti cop one... I think...

    As previously mentioned [many times over the years] the growing number of middle aged 'clean skins' [with nothing more than a few minor traffic tickets] and bitter personal experiences with dodgy coppers, inept justice system and thieving lawyers must make individuals like yourself wonder what the fuck is going on? Really ask yourself a simple question, is DEATH lying?, am I?........All the more puzzling when most of the on-site KB coppers have never met a dodgy cop, experienced an archaic justice system or met money hungry lawyers???

    Our stories do not match-up, why?


    Of course it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 9999999999999 percent of those who appear in court are as guilty as sin to start with?
    Of course all of those hapless folk have been nicked by our exemplary police force that never makes mistakes??........come on Patrick that's the silliest thing you have ever said.

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    Remind yourself that cops have got a job to do. If they have clear evidence, witnesses who will back them up, photos and the whole shitload, then they will just shrug and process you with no drama - because they can.

    They have tricks up their sleeve though - and one of them is to make you believe you are royally fucked, and that a confession is the only way. So you confess or just pay the fine. Job done!

    Another trick, is to have six patrol cars turn up lights-abaze, and start ranting and screaming at you, and all but draw weapons on you, and then loudly accuse you of something you didn't do. You ARE going to feel like you are up shit creek here, and thats the WHOLE IDEA you see.

    The bottom line, whether you did it or whether you didn't (immaterial), is whether there is good evidence to support their allegation. If there is, you are fucked. If there aint, then THEY are fucked. THAT is what the courts are there for. You can cry to the fuzz all you like but thats just going to make them think they have got you.

    In MY OPINION, your best bet is take a look at their evidence (if they even have any) and if its bullshit and go see them and laugh at them and tell them theres no fucking way any competent district court judge is going to allow that line of hearsay, and tell them to get bent and walk out. In any case, you have got nothing to lose by doing this - so you angrily told the fuzz to get bent its not against the law.. Last time I did that they slammed the phone down. LOL. Just make SURE you are right first and then go hard.

    The idea is to play them at their own game by turning their tactics on them. Don't be led into their game - thats what they want you to do. Tell them they are full of shit and their story is a fiction.

    Of course, all this is on the basis that their charges ARE a trumped up load of horseshit. God help you telling them to get bent if they have a detailed, accurate story on you - they will just look down their nose at your pitiful self - and process you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Remind yourself that cops have got a job to do. If they have clear evidence, witnesses who will back them up, photos and the whole shitload, then they will just shrug and process you with no drama - because they can.

    They have tricks up their sleeve though - and one of them is to make you believe you are royally fucked, and that a confession is the only way. So you confess or just pay the fine. Job done!

    Another trick, is to have six patrol cars turn up lights-abaze, and start ranting and screaming at you, and all but draw weapons on you, and then loudly accuse you of something you didn't do. You ARE going to feel like you are up shit creek here, and thats the WHOLE IDEA you see.

    The bottom line, whether you did it or whether you didn't (immaterial), is whether there is good evidence to support their allegation. If there is, you are fucked. If there aint, then THEY are fucked. THAT is what the courts are there for. You can cry to the fuzz all you like but thats just going to make them think they have got you.

    In MY OPINION, your best bet is take a look at their evidence (if they even have any) and if its bullshit and go see them and laugh at them and tell them theres no fucking way any competent district court judge is going to allow that line of hearsay, and tell them to get bent and walk out. In any case, you have got nothing to lose by doing this - so you angrily told the fuzz to get bent its not against the law.. Last time I did that they slammed the phone down. LOL. Just make SURE you are right first and then go hard.

    The idea is to play them at their own game by turning their tactics on them. Don't be led into their game - thats what they want you to do. Tell them they are full of shit and their story is a fiction.

    Of course, all this is on the basis that their charges ARE a trumped up load of horseshit. God help you telling them to get bent if they have a detailed, accurate story on you - they will just look down their nose at your pitiful self - and process you.

    Steve
    or you be a cock on the phone and they record the call and charge you with misuse of a telephone under the telecommunications act, happens heaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixPackBack View Post
    Of course all of those hapless folk have been nicked by our exemplary police force that never makes mistakes??........come on Patrick that's the silliest thing you have ever said.
    My bad... of course you weren't challenging the integrity of lawyers. Silly me....

    Surely it wasn't the 99.999999999999 thingy comment you refer to? That is why it was 99.99999999999999.....

    Never make mistakes? Course they do. Otherwise it would be 100% wouldn't it...?

    Mine is 100%. Can't speak for anyone else though....

    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    ....In MY OPINION, your best bet is take a look at their evidence (if they even have any) and if its bullshit and go see them and laugh at them and tell them theres no fucking way any competent district court judge is going to allow that line of hearsay,
    Oh dear..... check out the Evidence Act 2006.... especially the part about the exceptions to "Hearsay Evidence...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    Oh dear..... check out the Evidence Act 2006.... especially the part about the exceptions to "Hearsay Evidence...."
    What I intended to do was inadvertently insult the officer concerned, not make a technical point of law. It was a personal remark designed to irritate, and leave them wondering why they would want to have a go at someone who was prepared to stand up for themselves - particularly useful when they already know that their informations are all but baseless.

    I take your "oh dear" as condescending, perhaps also designed to inadvertently insult. Un-necessary in a forum of bikers such as this, where we all want to achieve the same thing. Perhaps my perception is incorrect, and you intent only to inform.. Either way, that is an interesting piece of information - Evident Act 2006. Thanks.


    Steve
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    "Wow, Great advise there DB."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    What I intended to do was inadvertently insult the officer concerned, not make a technical point of law. It was a personal remark designed to irritate, and leave them wondering why they would want to have a go at someone who was prepared to stand up for themselves - particularly useful when they already know that their informations are all but baseless.

    I take your "oh dear" as condescending, perhaps also designed to inadvertently insult. Un-necessary in a forum of bikers such as this, where we all want to achieve the same thing. Perhaps my perception is incorrect, and you intent only to inform.. Either way, that is an interesting piece of information - Evident Act 2006. Thanks.


    Steve
    So its OK to "inadvertently insult the officer" but if it is fired back at you, its "unnecessary" and not OK? What is good for the goose...

    I read it as an ill informed bush lawyer call and intended to correctly inform.

    BTW... You're welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    What I intended to do was inadvertently insult the officer concerned,
    Mate! I'll HAVE to use that as a defence one day, love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    Some of the 5 gang banger murderers here are seeking ebail. (Electronic monitoring). What a joke.
    It sounds fair to me. Hook them up to permanent wiring for 240 volts and have the switches in the station. Randomly flick the power on and off then wait for a scream. If it comes from their house, they are complying with the conditions of electronic bail.
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