New road rules

[MacD]

Offences that carry demerit points:

Failing to drive as near as practicable to the left of the roadway: 20

Interesting to see how this one is enforced? It uses the term roadway rather than lane, so could it be applied to people who block the right-hand lane on multi-lane roads?

On the other hand it could be used to ticket motorcyclists who ride in the right-hand tyre track...

[crashe]

Ok I took note early today when travelling home...
On the Nor-western motorway between Royal Rd to Te Atatu Rd exit, that on the bus lane it has a sign up "BUSES ONLY". So unless they are going to haul them down tomorrow, I shall not venture out onto that lane. Until I get it in writing from LSTA and then I will carry that paper with me at all times. As to the rest of the motorways, I havent taken much note... but will do so over the next day or so.

I sure hope that they allow us to use it....

[alastabesta]

That will be interesting. They don't say whether that law over-rides local council bylaws or not do they? Anyone *know*?

just checked the ltsa site and sounds like its a proper sub-delegated legislation (http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/road-user-sa...s.html#general)
by my understanding this legislation cannot be challenged therefore should in theory override the by-laws which can be challenged by courts. Having said that I don't see anything unreasonable in the "new rules"

with regards to roundabout, I thought its what we had to do at the first place...? yet I kept on hearing all those fusses about how the "new rules for roundabout is so confusing..."etc
correct me if i'm wrong...

[MacD]

with regards to roundabout, I thought its what we had to do at the first place...? yet I kept on hearing all those fusses about how the "new rules for roundabout is so confusing..."etc
correct me if i'm wrong...

The Road Code has "suggested" indicating left as you leave a roundabout for quite a while, or right as you pass around, but evidently there was no legislation that specifically required it until now. :spudwhat:

[TwoSeven]

Dont forget the new set of Demerit points also start today.

[crashe]

Dont forget the new set of Demerit points also start today.

Huh what you talking about...?
Did I miss something.... I must of... dang it..

Please, tell me what you talking about...

[MikeL]

Huh what you talking about...?
Did I miss something.... I must of... dang it..

Please, tell me what you talking about...

How could you have possibly missed the extensive education and publicity campaign that the LTSA and Police Farce have responsibly undertaken over the last 3 months to ensure that all road users are fully aware of the new regulations?

[Da Bird]

nzherald

A lot of scope for latitude in interpretation of the rules
unsafe passing (35 points) < Looks a nasty one for bikers

Have any guide lines been issued to "The Farce"? [sp?]

In a word, "no". There has been no training as such, just found a book on the boss' desk this morning about all the new rules. I would predict the first month or so, most cops will give warnings for most new offences, such as indicating when exiting a roundabout. And that will give us time to read up about it all too!

[Da Bird]

Can someone (preferably connected with the enforcement of the relevant regulations) please justify the decision to allocate 35 demerit points for entering a pedestrian crossing when the passage is blocked compared to 20 for failing to give way when entering a roundabout??
Can anyone suggest other anomalies in the new regulations?
If as is by no means unlikely these new penalties are enthusiastically enforced(as with speeding offences) it will at least have the advantage of reducing traffic congestion, even though it does nothing for the road toll, as all the minor traffic offenders are removed from the roads...

I also note John Roughan's column in the Herald. Resident KB cops will dismiss him as another whinger just venting his spleen because he got a speeding ticket...

Sorry, can't do any justifying for you - I don't make the rules. However, I see from the Herald article there are still no demerits for Failing to Comply With a Red Traffic Light - that is one offence there should definitely be demerits for in my opinion. Haven't had a chance to read the article you mention yet but will have a look.

[avgas]

Cant say i didnt warn you all, please people, act like assholes of the road so that people see you, get a big bore muffler etc etc
i would hate for anyones legs to have the same fate as mine just cos of a bus lane law.
Titanium seems cool, but it hurts every fucken day. And you go from being a relatively good rider, to a timid one.

[crashe]

How could you have possibly missed the extensive education and publicity campaign that the LTSA and Police Farce have responsibly undertaken over the last 3 months to ensure that all road users are fully aware of the new regulations?

Oh shit..... where the hell was I when this was all happening... and not watching the news.... Oh yeah I was on here.... and looking after my grandaughter.

Seriously I havent heard a thing about the demerits points at all...
Just know about the roundabouts and pedestrian crossings...
And hopefully we can eventually use ALL "Bus lanes".

So can you or someone else fill me in on the demerit points stuff.
Thanks in advance.

[Ricamortise]

In a word, "no". There has been no training as such, just found a book on the boss' desk this morning about all the new rules. I would predict the first month or so, most cops will give warnings for most new offences, such as indicating when exiting a roundabout. And that will give us time to read up about it all too!

Any info you could share on "interpretation" would be helpful to all in here.

Bit concerned about the overtaking one, coz of my own riding style, in as
much as indicating is a waste of time since the maneuver is over before
the lights have flashed a couple of times.

[Da Bird]

Any info you could share on "interpretation" would be helpful to all in here.

Bit concerned about the overtaking one, coz of my own riding style, in as
much as indicating is a waste of time since the maneuver is over before
the lights have flashed a couple of times.

Have to have a decent look at it all next week but I would say your "style" would easily come under the current "Failing to indicate move to the right" offence... dunno about any demerits for that one.

[MikeL]

Seriously, though...
To get through the Royal Oak roundabout when there is heavy traffic (i.e. any time between 7 a.m. and 7 pm) you have to be quick. This afternoon I went through, from Manukau Rd (sth) straight ahead to Manukau Rd (nth).
From the time I cancelled the right blinker and flicked on the left to exit, until I was through, was no more than 2 blinks of the indicator. And of course the flicking on and off had to be done while scanning both left and right for careless cagers, and covering the brake ready to scream to a halt because Mrs Brainless "didn't see me"... and quite possibly changing gears as well...
Piece of cake.

Only someone should keep a tally of the accidents at this intersection and see whether the new rules result in fewer or more...

[spudchucka]

I also note John Roughan's column in the Herald. Resident KB cops will dismiss him as another whinger just venting his spleen because he got a speeding ticket...

You sound like the new Lou. I never buy the Herald because of the off chance that some of Lou's rants are likely to be published in it so I have no idea who that John bloke is.