Oh sorry - try this:Originally Posted by NOWOOL
In any case, belt drive and shaft drive are bad, as they take away the chance for the rider to bond with his machine by getting down'n'dirty with the chain.
Or do I need one of these as well?
parting of the sensory
Oh sorry - try this:
In any case, belt drive and shaft drive are bad, as they take away the chance for the rider to bond with his machine by getting down'n'dirty with the chain.
Or do I need one of these as well?
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....
The Practical Biker
Yeah, I'm thinking the manufactuers use chains because they are cheap build and keep you buying new chains and sprockets - since they aren't covered under warranty like a shaft of belt drive bike would be.
(sorta like inkjet manufactuers selling printers cheap).
I don't see why a motorbike can't be as reliable as a car....especially since it has less parts.
C'mon lets ride....
Some of us have been having a relible experience with bikes for decades. Parts on cars wear out just like motorcycles.
The Practical Biker
My Reason for this post is a lot of the posters complain about only getting 5000 to 10,000 k out of their stock chains. Until reading the posts on this and other forums I didn't give much thought to chain longevity. I've got 11,000 on the original GN chain and so far no desernable wear, but it does get me thinking.
My friends have Harley's and BMW's...shaft and belts and no worries even after years of use.
So, friends of chains....how long should a stock chain and sprocket set last?
how often do you clean and lube?
I've been cleaning and lube every 1,000k with castrol sprays in between.
The Practical Biker
That may be, but I've yet to see a bike with 300,000 k's that still runs fine without a rebuild ......300,000 k's is easily attainable to a car engine.
C'mon lets ride....
Good point but bike engines generally rev a damn sight harder and smaller capacity than most car engines (things like the Rocket 3, MT-01,FJRs I would imagine would have a long engine life given the chance). In saying that 200,000 is attainable on a lot of the bigger bore bikes-personnally know of a chap who use to ride a K75 that did that before the tops of the pistons seperated. A lot of bikes get trashed or wrecked before this point though. Or parked up/sold or never to be ridden again due a change in the riders curcumstances. I have a 500 thats done 180,000kms(it hauled a side car around for a bit) without major engine work but is due for a refresh. A chap here on KB had an XS1100 that did 300,000kms or more before the crank went snap.
Thats pretty good going for a Chinese GN250 chain. A chap at work got 15,000ks and two years riding out of his one. It'll be interesting how far you do get on it. His bike was left out in all weather. There's been few stories on KB about rollers breaking. Btw the quality of those chains is not representive of all manufacturers OEM m/c chains, other Suzukis included.
Hardcore Biker
and lots of harley owners ditch the belt drive and fit chains
I have yet to hear of a harley owner converting the rear drive from chain to belt (no doubt will hear all about it after posting this)
Reasons to convert to chain drive
One stone and a belt can destroy itself andf leave you stranded
On some bikes swing arm removal is required to fit belts
belts and pulleys are more expensive than chains
easier and cheaper to change gearing on chain drives
I replaced the bely drive on my electraglide over 10 years ago, it was a realatively new belt that decided to shread itself of all its rubber teeth for no apparent reason
since then I have run chains and sprockets and have fitted a scotoiler, chain maintenance is now down to check the chain and refill the scotoiler every oil change
Forum whore
I'm converting my BMW to chain drive so it can do wheel stands.
In and out of jobs, running free
Waging war with society
C'mon lets ride....
The straight fwd belt drive replacement procedure- http://www.harleyhog.co.uk/belt%20install%201.htm
Horse will need to carry out to fit his new belt.
Forum whore
Yes, I can see the benefits now.
I'm beached as!
Yeah. No maintenance.
If it breaks another belt I'll be converting it to chain drive. And/or selling it for something with a shaft. I'm becoming increasingly convinced that Harley belt drives are simply inappropriate for the stone-studded bitumen lakes we call "roads" in the central North Island.
Royal Enfield user
That chain angle must be in the order of ten foot , to do that ...............
back to chains , the more horses ( force ) the greater the width required ,,,, Gn ...ok Hardly ableson Ok ..... Cbr ......snap , oh and dont foget the accel of bel going roing puully ,,, ...something funny if I remember ,,,,,, ( not sure......... off top of head )
Stephen
"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
parting of the sensory
Holy crapola! What a kooont of a job!
What crap engineering!
What primitive design!
I know I shouldn't be, but I was actually amazed at just how crappy the whole design was - looks very agricultural/industrial.
I like the bit at the beginning saying he needed "little tools" to do the job - they're all fookin' HUGE ones!
(Yeah yeah - I know he meant "few tools".)
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....
The Practical Biker
Thanks for everyone's feedback. Its quashed my fears about chains. That's the best part about the forum for advice; it allows much more feedback (and less brainwashing) than from the limited circle of friends around me daily.
Hardcore Biker
Having read that i never want a belt drive.
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