How many motorcycle riders?

[Mom]

Moreover, I'd really like to understand, given that there are 450,000 of us legally allowed to ride, why we seem to have so little voice for safety and roading issues, like the cheesecutters debacle?

Thanks Mom,

Mike

At risk of being accused of using you to bring this thread back to life (guilty as charged) I thought I should report back that I have had no response to my emailed question of Feb 22nd. I was told on the phone 4-10 days(working or not, I have no idea) and no reply. I have therefore not asked for a response to your pertinent question in the meantime either

10 days makes it Friday, so two more to go of I have my maths right that is.

Actually reading back on the reply I got, we should hear back Thursday


Good afternoon Mom

Thank you for your email dated 19 February 2009.

I have forwarded your statistics query to the appropriate department. They will respond in due course.


Regards

Contact Response Team

[SARGE]

As the title suggests, how many motorcycle riders are there in NZ?
.............. she says in the opening minutes of the DVD is that there are over 450,000 motorcyclists on the road in New Zealand. How many?

............. the following registration figures.

In 2007 (the latest year the statistics are available for) there were 65,658 Licensed Motorcycles in New Zealand according to this table;

This one by type and age - shows 122,840 motorcycles and mopeds

So, is there over 450,000 motorcyclists on the road in New Zealand?

when ya figure on the number of muppets with no rego/wof/class 6.. (many on this board....)

[Mom]

when ya figure on the number of muppets with no rego/wof/class 6.. (many on this board....)

I did not ask about the totally unlicensed ones among us...LOL

[SARGE]

I did not ask about the totally unlicensed ones among us...LOL

make that 472985 motorcyclists

[hedcase07]

I would be curious to know how many people wouldnt have thier bikes regestered when these figures were done. i dont rego mine in winter. lmao This would surely account for some of the difference between no of licence holders and registered bikes.

[Mom]

I would be curious to know how many people wouldnt have thier bikes regestered when these figures were done. i dont rego mine in winter. lmao This would surely account for some of the difference between no of licence holders and registered bikes.

Yes, you are right, there will be a percentage of 6 class license holders that have their rego on hold for whatever reason, but not that many. Impossible to get that kind of data anyway really, well not impossible, but not easy, and very expensive and time consuming, and not actually worth it unless you had a good reason to know that information. Then of couse there will always be the people that tell porkies when answering "official" statistical questionaires.

[Mom]

After not receiving any reply from my last email I sent a little reminder yesterday and have received the following response;

Hi Mom
Apologies for the delay, your second request fell through a very narrow
crack and didnt resurface till you sent your reminder.

The attached table contains the breakdown that you requested.

You will notice that the grand total is more than your previous answer,
this is due to additional class 6 licences having been granted since
your last request and the inclusion of Disqualified class 6 licences
being added to the request line in the query as per your reqirements.

I trust this is satisfactory.

Very nice man at LTNZ

I have attached the spreadsheet he sent, and although I have not had time to study it in detail it makes for some interesting reading.

[Ixion]

Shit, there's a lot of us old farts in there. Real question though is, how many of those are stiull riding.

BIG props though to the TWO 85 year olds on their learners!

[kave]

I am impressed by the 15 year old with his full. Must have done a conversion from an overseas bike licence.

[Mom]

Shit, there's a lot of us old farts in there. Real question though is, how many of those are stiull riding.

BIG props though to the TWO 85 year olds on their learners!

How on earth would we find out the number still riding though? I have the registration figures for currently registered bikes, but that is a very small number compared to the number of people licensed to ride.

I like the 94 y/o on his full, picking he is no longer riding though.

[Ixion]

That's why I like the two 85yo learners. One would presume they are still riding. Even if they just did the "sit on learners for ever" they'd have had to be at least 70 odd when they got the L (cos before the GDLS they didn't exist)

Incidentally one would assume that the 94 yo is probably still driving a cage at any rate - cos its only a couple of years since they scrapped the over 80 testing, and he must have passed the last one.

[jetboy]

The very lovely Carolyn Taylor is the presenter, and the first thing she says in the opening minutes of the DVD is that there are over 450,000 motorcyclists on the road in New Zealand. How many?

Isn't she blonde?

[jetboy]

Isn't she blonde?

...and after reading the spreadsheet attached to the few posts above, it seems that it is I that is blonde!

[peasea]

How on earth would we find out the number still riding though?

Count them; there's me.........

[mikeey01]

How on earth would we find out the number still riding though? I have the registration figures for currently registered bikes, but that is a very small number compared to the number of people licensed to ride. I like the 94 y/o on his full, picking he is no longer riding though.

Interesting results, expected from a government department however.

This is the thing that cracks me up, stats like this being used in this way!
One can't assume 487,000 class 6 licence holders are current riders can they?
The only true way is by registerd vehicles by type.

So all those who have a tin top license are active drivers and drive a tin top?

To compile facts and projected data in this way is nothing short of a joke, remember they would have used this figure to plead for more money in acc levies as bods to cover for......
I'm sure the muppets haven't thought of their mistake this way.... add up all classes by type, car, bike, ht, rollers, tracks etc etc suddenly NZ pop would rise and we'd have 6 million.

Typical stats like this mess up and muddy the waters of the actual results needed, muppets.