bikers keep left?

[bugjuice]

I feel a movement coming on.....

or may be that was lunch..

Glad I'm not the only one who's thinking this tho. What a crock of crap. Shall we find out where he lives, and go round for a quick 'chat'? Think of other bikers who aren't part of any 'groups' like this, who are now stressing that the 18-wheeler isn't going to see them, cos they're right over the left of the road..? fukin journos..

Edit - I've just emailed the LTNZ to ask them to clarify it all. I'll post it if they reply to me.

[Wolf]

I've just emailed the LTNZ to ask them to clarify it all. I'll post it if they reply to me.

Cheers for that. Hoping it's all a storm in a teacup over a misunderstanding - would hate to think some stupid arse who's never ridden a bike is dicking with the law to make it illegal to ride safely.

[Motu]

Allan Kirk and the Motorcycle Safetly Consultants have been around for a long time,I still have some of his pamfletes he used to send outnearly 20 yrs ago.I agree with a lot of what he says - and you'll find a lot of what I spout that gets others annoyed is exactly what Allan talks about - but this megarider crap sounds like he's loosing it a bit,somewhat egotisical...something a megarider would shy away from...

[TygerTung]

Ok, I just got my licence a couple of weeks ago, and the road code goes on heaps about not keeping left, it says to stay in the right hand section of the lane, otherwise you get cars pushing past you and running you off the road, and noone can see you! Whats up with that!

[Cajun]

Offences that carry demerit points:

Failing to drive as near as practicable to the left of the roadway: 20
Unsafe passing: 35
Impeding vehicle when passing: 35
Failing to allow impeded traffic to pass: 20
Passing at school crossing point or pedestrian crossing: 20
Passing to right of no-passing line: 35
Driving in emergency stopping lane: 10
Failing to comply with hand-held stop sign: 20
Failing to comply with school patrol sign: 20
Not stopping at stop sign: 20
Not giving way at stop sign: 20
Not giving way at give-way sign: 20
Driver of left-turning vehicle fails to give way to vehicle from right: 20
Failing to give way to road user on footpath when entering/exiting driveway: 20
At intersection, failing to give way to vehicle approaching from right: 20
Failing to give way when entering roundabout: 20
Exceeding speed for stopping distance: 20
Exceeding speed for stopping distance on road not marked in lanes: 20
Driving too close to vehicle in front: 20
Parking on pedestrian crossing: 20
Parking within 6m of driver's approach to pedestrian crossing: 20
Parking in signed/marked area on approach to pedestrian crossing: 20
Driver permits riding dangerously: 20
Failing to give way to rail vehicle approaching level crossing: 20
Drive, etc, cycle, vehicle, or animal across level crossing when risk of collision with rail vehicle: 20
Failing to stop for level crossing stop sign: 20
Failing to remain stationary at stop sign until level crossing clear: 20
Entering controlled level crossing when red signal displayed: 20
Entering controlled area of level crossing when barrier arm lowered: 20
Failing to give way at pedestrian crossing: 35
Entering pedestrian crossing when passage blocked: 35
Failing to give way to pedestrian on shared zone: 35

[bugjuice]

a lot of focus on stopping for pedestrians etc, and for trains.. if you don't stop for a train, 20 points isn't the only thing you're going to get, or have to worry about..

I thought there'd be more on traffic, but I wouldn't know what..

[Marmoot]

but this megarider crap sounds like he's loosing it a bit,somewhat egotisical...something a megarider would shy away from...

Exactly my point. Thank's for clearing it up for me.

P.S.
On a side note, that proves my non-egotistical nature as I don't even know what I was talking about. Hmm....maybe that is a hidden talent in me as a megarider

[limmy]

Ok, I just got my licence a couple of weeks ago, and the road code goes on heaps about not keeping left, it says to stay in the right hand section of the lane, otherwise you get cars pushing past you and running you off the road, and noone can see you! Whats up with that!

yeap. i remember that too. so i guess its just more confusion.

[Lias]

Aye when I was studying for my learners last year I'm sure the roadcode says bikes should ride where the righthand wheel of a cage would be.

[ManDownUnder]

Aye when I was studying for my learners last year I'm sure the roadcode says bikes should ride where the righthand wheel of a cage would be.

You are joking right... a vestage of common sense in the law?!?



No reflection on those that uphold it... just on those that write the stuff...
MDU

[flyin]

im looking forward to seeing cars fined for driving in the right hand part of their lanes!!

thats where i wanna be passing them!! and this legislation will force cages to leave the largest possible gap between lanes so we all get a bigger virtual lane

[bugjuice]

apparently it's been there all along, just never enforced. In the UK where I learnt to drive, you get a good bollockin for not sticking left. Took a while to get used to the traffic not doing that here.. Undertaking is also law-breaking in the UK too, so it tried to reduce the number of accidents by enforcing these 2 rules.. I've always thought the same should have been done everywhere in the world, not just here and the UK..

[TwoSeven]

Many years ago NZ driver ed. said that you needed to 'keep to the left' which many people thought meant they had to drive on the left hand white line - you still see people do it today.

What it really meant was Keep to the left 'side of the road' because NZ roads were generally not marked. It didnt mean drive on the left hand white line, because thats a hazardus area where all the road crap, dirt and glass gathers. Also, its the suicide zone as you cant see between parked cars (in the city now), pedestrians and cyclists.

Later when roads became marked, you were told to drive in the center of your lane (although many people still used the keep left rule and faultily applied it to the lane, rather than the road).

When multi-laned roads were brought in, the right most lane[s] were used as passing lanes (and still should be), so the driver ed. said keep to the left hand lane and was usually followed by the phase - unless passing (and you pass on the right). Again they left out the 'drive in the center of your lane' bit, so again people thought you still had to drive on the left side of the lane - which is still incorrect.

What you should be doing is driving in the center of the left most lane at the correct and safe speed for the situation at or more than, the minimum following distance. Each of those things will score you about 20 points if you dont do em

For a motorcycle it goes a little bit further than that. When there is an obstruction (or hazard) on the side of the road (either side) you should move to the left or right of your lane to increase your visibility (as well as to slow to safer speed) around the obstruction - it also moves you further away from the hazard as well. You dont need to do this for things in front, because you are already at the correct and safe following distance and speed.

The only time you have to pull over to the left hand side of the lane is when you make a left hand turn in order that you dont obstruct traffic - or when you need to make a right hand turn on a road where there is no room in the center.

Basically the new rule was the governments bumbling way of saying the above as far as I understand things.

[Blakamin]

I wish that they'd stop making up bullshit.... demerits for Exceeding speed for stopping distance: 20... what a wank....
they don't even enforce drink driving ffs!!!
while in bundaberg for a week, I saw 2...(two) random checkpoints.... while living in NZ and driving for a living... I have seen 1 (one) in fuckin 4 years!!!!!!
in qld they will pull over every vehicle on a 4 lane highway... the only rbt I've seen here was on a paraparaumu back road!
fuck roundabouts and other shit... catch the drunks!!!!

there were 5 seperate accidents on sh1 between j'ville and porirua last night (in a 2.5 hour period)... why? cant people fucking drive???

[Skyryder]

I ride on the part of the road that gives me the best view ahead and allows the best escape rout. Mostly that is closer to the centre line than the left part of the lane. If I am clear of traffic and cruisin' I will place myself to the left or centre part of the road/lane. At the end of the day position yourself in the safest part of the road.

Skyryder