God save the queen her fascist regime.

[SixPackBack]

The French had the right idea, OFF WITH THEIR HEADS.

The monarchy should die [perhaps figuratively], they play no important part in a so called democratic society. The commonwealth should be disbanded immediately, lords should be stripped of their powers, all real estate and property should hence forth become property of the state.....etc etc...

If/when this happens any Maori king/Queen should likewise be stripped of title.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE

[EatOrBeEaten]

Just out of curiosity- does brenda have any hold over NZ beyond the purely honorific? I'm guessing there's no castles, vast tracts of land, tapayers money going towards upkeep of such etc...

[scumdog]

The French had the right idea, OFF WITH THEIR HEADS.

The monarchy should die [perhaps figuratively], they play no important part in a so called democratic society. The commonwealth should be disbanded immediately, lords should be stripped of their powers, all real estate and property should hence forth become property of the state.....etc etc...

If/when this happens any Maori king/Queen should likewise be stripped of title.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE

Who dropped the kina down YOUR Y-fronts???

[Skyryder]

Just out of curiosity- does brenda have any hold over NZ beyond the purely honorific? I'm guessing there's no castles, vast tracts of land, tapayers money going towards upkeep of such etc...

Nothing becomes law until sighne by her rep the Governor General. It's the main reason that I am not a republican. They want another House etc and all the extra moolah that this will cost. The GG is a cheap option to ensure that all bills are passed constitutuionaly.

Skyryder

And for those that want to criticise my spelling this in advance i cna not be arsed to use a spell check.

[Trudes]

Hooray!!!
Rejoice!!
Now if that happened my study work load would be cut down by about half.... no Treaty to have to read and examine at length!!

[Ixion]

King. It's God save the King. King Francis, by God's Grace King of England, Scotland, France, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand ,Canada and other odds and ends. . Elizabeth II may be Queen de facto, but not de jure. She is a usurper.

[Mom]

King. It's God save the King. King Francis, by God's Grace King of England, Scotland, France, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand ,Canada and other odds and ends. . Elizabeth II may be Queen de facto, but not de jure. She is a usurper.

Off with your head!

I want to be King actually.

[Trudes]

[Mom]

that image I am not allowed to quote

Apparently we have bling restrictions on the forum

[MisterD]

Oliver Cromwell, Lord Protector of England (puritan)
Born in 1599, died in 1658 (september)



The man with the right idea....and to all the Irish Catholics that believe the hype:

[MisterD]

The GG is a cheap option to ensure that all bills are passed constitutuionaly.

Did a bang-up job with the EFA that your lot rammed through eh? That's the kind of thing that shows we need an upper house...

[MisterD]

POWER TO THE PEOPLE

[JacksColdSweat]

Nothing becomes law until sighne by her rep the Governor General. It's the main reason that I am not a republican. They want another House etc and all the extra moolah that this will cost. The GG is a cheap option to ensure that all bills are passed constitutuionaly.

Further to this the one argument I have heard in favour of the monarchy that is an interesting one (not that I agree with it - it's just interesting) is that the advantage to the monarchy is that you have people who are trained in leadership

In essence (as I understand the argument) the monarchs experience a very long apprenticeship in leadership - they are often educated overseas, they spend time in developing nations assisting with those programs, they mix with the rich and famous - all the time being mentored by other monarchs and staff

the idea is that they see the whole world and they have intimate knowledge of various walks of life which leads them to be better leaders and decision makers

Take that away and you have people with rather narrow experiences making all our decisions for us... businessmen or former socialists... all pushing us in a narrow direction rather than a considered and broad one...

like I say - interesting - I can understand the argument - I don't know if I agree with it

EDIT: Skyryder we don't have a constitution... so the step to a republic would also need that to be drafted and written and debated endlessly

[Ixion]

Meh. Republic, reshublic. It's not like it hasn't been tried. Given a fair chance and it was a total flop. Now we're just getting over the ballsup, and you want to go and do it all over again.

Some people never learn.

[MisterD]

Take that away and you have people with rather narrow experiences making all our decisions for us... businessmen or former socialists... all pushing us in a narrow direction rather than a considered and broad one...

Yeah, but we're not talking about an executive position, we're talking about a figurehead for the country. I don't want some f-ing politician in the role, I want the Irish model.

Hands up who wouldn't rather have had President Hilary, Te Kanawa or Meads than HRH the occupier of Buck House?

**Edit**

I just re-read that and googled "irish model" and I stand by my "I want..." statement