How far can I go...(cornering)?

[Aaron]

Being a complete newbie to motorcycles and sport bikes specifically I'm unsure about something.

How far over can you go before a low side is imminent? (Assuming perfect conditions, i.e. dry, bitumen surface, no gravel).

The attached image shows a PXT of my rear tire.

From left to right you'll see: Dust from gravel driveway, section of wear, a couple of centimeters where the tire still has that coating that accompanies new tires.

So, you can see I haven't been that far over, but I was wondering, how far is safe, can you go right over?

Will I hit the pegs before running out of wheel?

If the peg hits the road will it drag the bike down?

Cheers, Aaron.

[SPORK]

It depends... Speed, tightness of corner, bike, boots... Those strips on the side are called "chicken strips". Do a search to find out more.

Just go as far as you are comfortable

[FROSTY:Me]

Dont sweat it dude its the last thing ya need to worry about.
But to answer your question
A Certain Motoracing" member of KB is trying to be the first member to regularly scrape his ELBOWS on the ground whilst riding.
Given your experience level You have a lot of other stuff to learn and a lot further to lean before ya worry about dangle angle.

[Aaron]

Thanks Cryhavoc, found the thread appropriately entitled 'Chicken Strips', and unfortunately the meaning behind them

I take solace in having only been riding for six weeks.

On my little 250 it would be getting close to the edge to have no chicken strips I think, on the 130/170 tires.

A query about why boots would be of concern, I presume this is due to the effect of what might occur if you clip the road surface. I wear John Bull combat boots, so they would perhaps grip and grab rather than slide like bike boots with the plastic armour might, correct?

[Aaron]

Dont sweat it dude its the last thing ya need to worry about.

Cheers Frosty

[**R1**]

Like the others have said "you have other things to worry bout b4 dragn ya pegs....but just so ya know, ya can drag the pegs on the gsx no probs....i did it on a work mates last year, he had dunlops on his bike, but i dont think the tyres matter that much it wasnt near the edge when the pegs hit the ground.

[Two Smoker]

Just take your time mate focus on being smooth, and dont be scared of dropping it harder into a corner if the corner tightens up... Its all about counter steering...

I try not to scrape the pegs on the road as it can cause you to highside if you havnt experienced it before...

Just look at your tyres for a relation of how far you are leaning over... BUT beware of those IRC tyres they are not the best and are like plastic... I recommend getting decent rubber if you want to start pushing it hard...

Hey frosty... MR needs another 10cm before his elbow is scraping hehehe but hes getting fucking close... I need to start racing my 600.... my arms are longer than his hehehe That or he needs some 16.5 inch rims...

[Waylander]

You would be surprised how far most bikes will go before you scrape pegs. I can get mine pretty far over (or so it feels to me) and I have only scraped my passenger pegs cause I forgot to put them up.

[Zapf]

Yea... I would like to echo what TS has pointed out... those IRC tires are not very good at keeping you sticking to the road.... perhaps a set of pirillie sport demons would sort you right.

[Monsterbishi]

You would be surprised how far most bikes will go before you scrape pegs. I can get mine pretty far over (or so it feels to me) and I have only scraped my passenger pegs cause I forgot to put them up.

My old CBR250R could damn near scrape the pegs going in a straight line, just as well they pivot up easily enough, I remember having a fun moment on my first 250 - a CB250RS, when I scraped on that - fixed pegs - not fun...

Methinks it's gonna be a very long time before I scrape up the pegs on the YZF, they're 100mm higher than the CBR's ones were.

[Waylander]

My old CBR250R could damn near scrape the pegs going in a straight line, just as well they pivot up easily enough, I remember having a fun moment on my first 250 - a CB250RS, when I scraped on that - fixed pegs - not fun...

Methinks it's gonna be a very long time before I scrape up the pegs on the YZF, they're 100mm higher than the CBR's ones were.

It's kinda fun to do that though I have to becarefull about the heels of my boots when turning like that. Still looking for some titanium plates to attach so I can throw up pretty white sparks

[Storm]

Dont worry too much about getting them down. Scraping pegs can be a bloody small distance from cartwheeling after (or heaven help, in front of ) your bike.
You might look like a hero for the pegs, but you'll defintly be uncool if you wreck your ride

[Waylander]

Dont worry too much about getting them down. Scraping pegs can be a bloody small distance from cartwheeling after (or heaven help, in front of ) your bike.
You might look like a hero for the pegs, but you'll defintly be uncool if you wreck your ride

Heh.. I dont do it often but sometimes its fun to lean hard into a turn (specially round roundabouts) and show off a bit to the cagers. Little kids apreatiate it too.


(edit) just realized you may not have been talking to me but ohwell one more post down I guess:spudwhat:

[Sensei]

If you boot's start to look like these then back of about 20k's LOL

[bugjuice]

one good ting I sometimes do (so good for newbies, and the oldies) is chalk the tyre. Draw a line from left to right (or right to left, if you're left handed), then go for a ride (or do it while on your fav run of twisties), go as hard as you feel comfortable doing, then stop and have a look. See how far you've gone. What you have left is probably a good inch. So go for another run. Find that corner you know blind folded, then go just that smidge bit faster, and lean that bit harder. Keep doing that, and you'll get there. Remember to keep looking at the peak (furthest) point of the corner, then you'll start to get your ass off the bike - that's when the real fun starts, but one step at a time, ay? No one is Rossi in one run of the road..