Gassing up and paying with helmet on?

**Big Dave** · 12th March 2009, 08:09

Nah - fack 'em and their company policy.

If I can't buy it on my terms I go somewhere where I can - if it's a regular.

BP Abbotts way and BP Ellerslie don't care and are always good for a friendly chat - hat on or not.

They never insist I pre-pay either.

**007XX** · 12th March 2009, 08:23

Never had an issue, but then again, it's obvious I'm a chick, even when in full gear. So maybe I'm not considered a threat?

Which is stupid when you think about it, cos guns can be held by anyone!

Wonder who would be stupid enough to hold a service station at gunpoint nowadays though...

**Max Preload** · 12th March 2009, 08:34

Originally Posted by Ixion

Very true. It is my right to NOT buy their product. A right which I exercise. Frequently.

I thought I was alone! I exercise this right not to buy so frequently that to see me actually buying anything other than that which I absolutely cannot any longer go without, is rather a rarity.

Originally Posted by Mikkel

Treating paying customers as suspect criminals and/or lesser human beings is not going to see you stay in business for long...

Indeed. That's as offensive to me, I'm sure, as being followed around a store by security is to any person with dark skin. In both cases a majority is being treated as the minority with whom they can be linked and profiled.

**saltydog** · 12th March 2009, 09:05

After posting this thread me a mate headed up to TK and Waihou Bay for a ride. We stopped twice, once in Opotiki and once in Waihou, both times paid with my helmet on (and one was a BP).
It appears, with the exception of say...stark307, beemer and slyer, most of us would rather keep our helmet on while paying for gas.
We've had 2 posts with personal reference to the gentleman in question (No I dont do boats....laughed at that one) and one post suggesting if you catch him on a good day he's ok. He is a grumpy old man.
I wonder if this helmet situation has anything to do with the fact that the cops only fill at this particular station? (BP 2GO cnr Peace and McAllister streets. ph 07 3086735)
I honestly havent filled up at this BP for ages, I go out of my way to avoid them. The wife only goes there to fill up the falcon when its empty and she has a 10c/l off voucher. Apart from that they're not getting ANY more of my money.
And fuck BP's 98 octane petty, I heard its a rip-off blend anyway.
And while I'm on it, all you do gooders who insist I'm the only one at fault here.......eat my dust.
PS: should I just go in and ask to politley speak to the manager......or wait until its pissing down again?

**Starky307** · 12th March 2009, 09:05

Originally Posted by Max Preload

Indeed. That's as offensive to me, I'm sure, as being followed around a store by security is to any person with dark skin. In both cases a majority is being treated as the minority with whom they can be linked and profiled.

This is what happens when some low life scum uses a motorcycle helmet as a form of disguise and robs a petrol station, it tarnishes all others who would like to be able to buy petrol without removing their helmets.

My opinion is to remove all doubt and enter the petrol stations, corner dairy, bank etc with your helmet off, it will suddenly remove you from that unfortunate genre of people with ill intentions.

**saltydog** · 12th March 2009, 09:13

Originally Posted by Starky307

My opinion is to remove all doubt and enter the petrol stations, corner dairy, bank etc with your helmet off, it will suddenly remove you from that unfortunate genre of people with ill intentions.

Starky mate, just let it go, we hear you, but you are standing on your soap-box as the minority on this one. We dont want to cause an armed defender call out, but would like to have a bit of common sence applied to situations such as the one that occured to me.
Come on mate...lets just go for a ride!

**Squid69** · 12th March 2009, 09:29

Originally Posted by saltydog

We have a BP here in Whakatane, yep just one. More recently I have been having issues with paying for my gas. There's this old fella in there thats a stickler for protocal and every time a coconut he insists I take my helmet off to pay for my gas, even when it is cash. I've had a gutsful of him.
When I try to tell him to let up he nuts off at me and wants to call the cops. He sees me every 2 or three days, my bike has a very easily remembered personalised plate, I dont have (many) tatoos or a long ZZ-top beard and up until recently I have been a polite biker.
Is it just BP that has this helmet policy like the banks or are any other KB'ers out there getting hassled in a similar way at different service stations?
The last thing you want to do is take your bloody helmet off just to give some geezer a $20 buck note ay?! If I was going to do a runner why would I even bother about coming inside the store? What? Counterfit bank notes I hear you say?
Is this happening to others out there?

Ive never bothered to take my helmit off when filling up.
Unl;ess im with a group, if im with a group then its worth it because your more often sitting around for half a hour after filling/paying while everyone talks smack

**gijoe1313** · 12th March 2009, 09:35

I remember large group ride and ending up stopping in Dargaville, first servo we come to, we all park up to fill ... and the attendant inside refused to turn them on ... wanted us to prepay first! Some of us had even removed our lids.

As if we knew how much each of us needed to fill up with! We all just rode off and rocked into the next servo and the attendant just gave us the big thumbs up and unlocked all the pumps for us.

We spent extra in that store on food and drinks and appreciated the good will shown us!

**Griffin** · 12th March 2009, 09:43

Originally Posted by Starky307

When do petrol stations advertise? I'm trying to recall the last advert I saw for a petrol station.

Every petrol station advertises... usually on huge big signs right outside the station "regular 95 $2.98/l" etc... and yes, what I said may appear contradictive, the problem is I am trying to defend two statements that by their very context means I am having to stand on both sides of the fence. However, the fact remains that every person in this country has the right to buy any advertised product. You stated that you DONT have that right... well you do. Having said that, sometimes their are conditions, as for instance a person advertising a lawn mowing service in Auckland wouldnt be expected to have to provide his service to someone in Christchurch who purchased the Herald containing his advert.
Servos might list removing your helmet as one of the conditions of purchasing petrol, and as long as that is clearly stated they can claim that as a defence for not serving you - but they should have a person out on the forecourt enforcing that before you pour the petrol... because once you have done that and you offer to pay... helmet or no helmet, if they refuse to accept your money... they are giving you the petrol.

Originally Posted by saltydog

We dont want to cause an armed defender call out,

Armed Offender - hence the AOS (Armed Offender Squad)

yeah yeah... Im pedantic

**Mikkel** · 12th March 2009, 09:45

Originally Posted by Gubb

Ask them if they are going to insist that a woman wearing a Burqa to remove it before paying. See the shit-storm that causes.

Yep, ATGATT is the closest thing I have to religion - don't fucking mess with the dogma you cunts!

Originally Posted by Swoop

A good idea to keep your helmet on when walking into a diary. The cover and pages might hurt.

A man walks into a bar...

OUCH.

Originally Posted by Starky307

No relation what so ever, but again I'll try to make my point, you heard one side of a story and it seems that it is gospel truth to you.

Yep, I'm part of that rare minority who really prefer not to think about anything at all. I.e. fucking lazy.

Originally Posted by saltydog

We dont want to cause an armed defender call out, but would like to have a bit of common sence applied to situations such as the one that occured to me.

Speak for yourself, I think an armed offender callout could be a lot of fun - especially when they find that smoking gun is in fact a rather abused EFTPOS card.

No doubt, if you work at a petrol station you will have considered the risk of being robbed. You might even have played out different scenarios in your mind. I know I would.
However, let's face it - if someone comes to the petrol station with a gun to take whatever is in the till you will be at their mercy (unless you're Chuckies nephew of course). Same goes everytime you get in a car, you will to a large extent be at the mercy of other motorists. Stop living life in fear, it is disgraceful. Don't worry be happy, etc.

**saltydog** · 12th March 2009, 10:01

Originally Posted by Mikkel

Armed Offender - hence the AOS (Armed Offender Squad)

There you go, I always though it was the armed defenders. Is that not the old school name for them?

And while off topic, how many cages drive away without paying for petrol as opposed to bikes?

**Mikkel** · 12th March 2009, 10:03

Originally Posted by saltydog

There you go, I always though it was the armed defenders. Is that not the old school name for them?

And while off topic, how many cages drive away without paying for petrol as opposed to bikes?

Mate, as much as I would love to take credit for that correction it was Griffin's call.

As a matter of fact I edited that very error in my post after having seen the post he made in the meantime.

**short-circuit** · 12th March 2009, 10:04

Originally Posted by Starky307

This is what happens when some low life scum uses a motorcycle helmet as a form of disguise and robs a petrol station, it tarnishes all others who would like to be able to buy petrol without removing their helmets.

My opinion is to remove all doubt and enter the petrol stations, corner dairy, bank etc with your helmet off, it will suddenly remove you from that unfortunate genre of people with ill intentions.

Strange issue to be so vehement about.

Dunno about you but I use a helmet to protect my head not to hide in. At a guess I'd say that every single respondent to this thread uses theirs for the same purpose.

**Starky307** · 12th March 2009, 11:34

Just to throw petrol on the fire, what are you protecting your head from while inside a petrol station?

Seriously guys I ain't going to loose any sleep over this but I do like to voice my opinion.

I was going to ask again what the big deal is with removing your helmets but what I gather from this is we are on different sides of the fence on this one.
I'm on the correct and respectful side of the fence and the rest of you are low life soon to become robbers on the disrespectful side of the fence.

Your right saltydog, lets all just go riding.

As long as you remove your helmets when you gas up.lol