Gassing up and paying with helmet on?

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Just to throw petrol on the fire, what are you protecting your head from while inside a petrol station?

Who said they're leaving their helmet on to protect their head? It's more to protect the helmet. There's rarely anywhere you can safely leave it without risking it being blown off onto the ground or getting it covered in fuel.

[Owl]

The fact is they are protecting nothing except their freedom to be lazy and having everyone else adjust to suit.

No, that is a claim, not a fact!

[insomnia01]

The main hassle I get is when you pull up to a pre-pay only pump & the majority in TA are like this, what I do to get around this is I rock the BB onto it's centre stand take gloves off & when they notice this they free up the pump & I pay when I get inside... no prob's

[sunhuntin]

? Takes longer to remove the helmet than what it does to complete the transaction.

specially when youve got ear plugs, face warmers and all that extra guff to put back one again.

when touring, if i took my lid off at every petrol station just to pay [not including comfort/food/etc stops, just gassing up] then id never get anywhere, as it takes a good 10 mins for me to get my gear on comfortably.

[insomnia01]

specially when youve got ear plugs, face warmers and all that extra guff to put back one again.

when touring, if i took my lid off at every petrol station just to pay [not including comfort/food/etc stops, just gassing up] then id never get anywhere, as it takes a good 10 mins for me to get my gear on comfortably.

yeh, no that feeling to get my ear plugs sitting right takes a few minutes then I'm good as wood

[3umph]

That's your opinion on this matter, a pretty narrowminded one, really.

yes it is my opinion but not as narrow minded as your view...

This topic will keep going round and round and never come to a rest due to many having different opinions on what is right and what is not...

My guess would be most of the older riders would remove there helmets more then the younger ones...

There are so many places that say no helmets to be worn... I suggest all start wearing helmets in these other places as well...

I always remove my helmet when fueling up even if there is a forecourt attendant wanting to fill my bike up and take my cash... (very rare these days)

It is just common courtesy to remove your helmet...

[Hoon]

Bikers are more distinct so why is this classified as discrimination and favourtisim with different ethnic or classes of people?

Easy, ethnic and religious groups wear their head dress in public due to beliefs (i.e. all the time). Motorcyclists are only required to wear a helmet while riding for safety purposes (i.e. some of the time). If motorcyclists wore their helmets all day and only took them off to sleep for some reason then yes you'd have a point but they don't. Suggesting that a motorcyclist can't take their helmet off to complete a transaction yet they suddenly can when they want to eat or arrive at a destination doesn't really stack up.

Walking into a bank or supermarket etc then the helmet is removed, but why should it be removed for a petty less than 1 min transaction? Takes longer to remove the helmet than what it does to complete the transaction.

Transaction time is irrelevant. It doesn't make a place any less likely to be robbed. It's your choice to ride a bike, wear all that gear and get it on comfortably so the problem of the time and effort required to remove and replace all that gear is really a YOU problem that you are trying to make someone elses. Why would you think that the time and effort required for you to remove/replace your gear should somehow dictate the security policy in effect at a place of business?

If your money and genuine honesty isnt good enough what is?

Your money and honesty doesn't mean squat when:
a) The staff don't know you from a bar of soap.
b) You choose to enter the premises dressed like a robber (yes I know we are only bikers, just unfortunate that robbers choose to dress like us too).

[Lissa]

Well I go to the same petrol station for gas all the time. It does have a sign saying NO HELMETS, and I use to take it off to go in and pay, but its such a friggin hassle, especially when having to tuck all my hair back into the helmet (such a girl!) so I just bowl on in with my helmet, had no complaints... except one customer once asked me if I was going to rob them... jokingly

[Starky307]

Strange issue to be so vehement about.

Dunno about you but I use a helmet to protect my head not to hide in. At a guess I'd say that every single respondent to this thread uses theirs for the same purpose.

Just to throw petrol on the fire, what are you protecting your head from while inside a petrol station?


Seriously guys I ain't going to loose any sleep over this but I do like to voice my opinion.

I was going to ask again what the big deal is with removing your helmets but what I gather from this is we are on different sides of the fence on this one.
I'm on the correct and respectful side of the fence and the rest of you are low life soon to become robbers on the disrespectful side of the fence.

Your right saltydog, lets all just go riding.

As long as you remove your helmets when you gas up.lol

You're either a troll or you don't read other people's posts. Figure it out for yourself and if dyslexia is preventing you, then get a learning aide or mummy to interpret for you.

Still waiting for the reason you wear your helmet inside for protection.

I'm not trolling but I'm asking a reasonable question to something you made a point blank statement about with no real reason to do so.

Obvious, because some people are just too damn lazy to take 5 secs to remove their helmet. When they get snapped by the attendant for being a lazy dumbass trying to walk into a petrol station they get all defensive and make like they are being treated unfairly. Just because they got away with it once they now believe it is their god-given right to be able to do it everytime. For some reason they also believe "No Helmets" really means "No Helmets unless you have been to this petrol station once before and smiled at an attendant".

The fact is they are protecting nothing except their freedom to be lazy and having everyone else adjust to suit. Pretty simple really.

Is this what you are protecting short-circuit?

Who said they're leaving their helmet on to protect their head? It's more to protect the helmet. There's rarely anywhere you can safely leave it without risking it being blown off onto the ground or getting it covered in fuel.

short-circuit did, see above.

Easy, ethnic and religious groups wear their head dress in public due to beliefs (i.e. all the time). Motorcyclists are only required to wear a helmet while riding for safety purposes (i.e. some of the time). If motorcyclists wore their helmets all day and only took them off to sleep for some reason then yes you'd have a point but they don't. Suggesting that a motorcyclist can't take their helmet off to complete a transaction yet they suddenly can when they want to eat or arrive at a destination doesn't really stack up.


Transaction time is irrelevant. It doesn't make a place any less likely to be robbed. It's your choice to ride a bike, wear all that gear and get it on comfortably so the problem of the time and effort required to remove and replace all that gear is really a YOU problem that you are trying to make someone elses. Why would you think that the time and effort required for you to remove/replace your gear should somehow dictate the security policy in effect at a place of business?



Your money and honesty doesn't mean squat when:
a) The staff don't know you from a bar of soap.
b) You choose to enter the premises dressed like a robber (yes I know we are only bikers, just unfortunate that robbers choose to dress like us too).

Well said.

[scracha]

We have a BP here in Whakatane, yep just one. More recently I have been having issues with paying for my gas. There's this old fella in there thats a stickler for protocal and every time a coconut he insists I take my helmet off to pay for my gas, even when it is cash. I've had a gutsful of him.

Do a u turn and get on your bike. When said copper arrives at your doorstep, explain that it wasn't a "drive off" and that you offered them legal tender and they refused. It'll all be on camera too.

[PirateJafa]

Thats exactly the right course of action. But not gold - pay him in silver (five cent pieces)

Actually, they may be able to decline to accept those 5c pieces. I can't recall what the threshold is, it's around five or ten dollars, but over that threshold they can legally decline to accept payment in silver coins.

However, by law, sellers must accept gold coins - even though you may be paying thousands of dollars.

[MarkH]

Actually, they may be able to decline to accept those 5c pieces. I can't recall what the threshold is, it's around five or ten dollars, but over that threshold they can legally decline to accept payment in silver coins.

However, by law, sellers must accept gold coins - even though you may be paying thousands of dollars.

I think you are referring to 10c pieces - 5c pieces are no longer legal tender.

[Gremlin]

I have seen minimum fuel delivery of $2... not sure on how you must pay... its not on the minimum fuel delivery sign afaik.

5c are no longer legal tender from memory...

[PirateJafa]

T'was originally short-circuit who ws referring to 5c pieces. I said that over x amount they can decline payment if it is in silver coins.

[Kittyhawk]

Businesses have a set obligations to stakeholder groups. If in particular the primary focus is on customer and local community with set rules and policies, customers become unhappy they will take their business else where, when a customer experiences a negative impact while at a business on average they will tell 9 other people. Word of mouth is the most common of all advertising. It is more rare when a customer has a positive experience they will tell less people about it.

The question is when people migrate to NZ and they still wear their custom head dresses why cant they respect our culture and society? If we were to go to the Middle East us as women can not just parade around in a bikini if it is hot....we have to respect their culture and ways so why cant they respect ours?

This thread - everyone has a right to express their individual opinion on here in regards to the topic....weather people agree with one another I dont really give a damn.... What ever works for you works for you helmet on or helmet off, you have the choice to which ever petrol station to fuel up as well as be your own individual self.

I've had a good giggle at some of the replies in this thread, why do people take life so seriously!?