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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin G View Post
    I cannot believe what I am reading....are you for real? It may seem like an old cliche but believe it or not you get what you pay for! Same as everything in life. FFM helmets are low quality, cheap arse plain old nasty bits of crap. Do yourselves a favour and try a real helmet, you will laugh that you thought FFM's were ok. FFM are mass produced to the lowest possible price and when price is the key target guess what suffers...yes thats right quality, design, R&d , testing all the things you really want to be done with what is the only thing protecting your head.
    Ask yourself this question. What is my head worth to me? Probably more than $150 or what ever you pay for a FFM.

    Sorry if this insults users of FFM's but it is itended to wake you up.
    I cannot believe what I am reading....are you for real?

    If it passes the standard, is comfortable and the noise levels are acceptable then what's the problem?

    My Zeus 2100b cost $195 and it fit me better and is quieter than the $800 Arai Tour X I also tried.

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    Yes fitment is very important that is why "real helmets" come with different size padding sets so they can be fitted exactly to your head and face.
    As Arai state, "there is a difference". Try one, go on treat yourself.

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    I bought an r-jays for $180 (on sale), learnt a lot from that, it meets standards but shit is it noisy (deafining at any speed over 70km), has no wind protection so my neck is constantly cold, and the the fog gaurd never stays in the centre and is so small its a joke
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    I have an FFM Mach I helmet. I have had it for about 25 years, it is now my reserve helmet , but still in good nick. I cannot now remember what it cost, but I believe that I have had good service and good value from it.

    It is quieter and more comfortable (by a significant margin) than either my HCL summitoruver or my Nitro thingy.

    I would be happy to reccomend the brand.
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    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    I cannot believe what I am reading....are you for real?

    If it passes the standard, is comfortable and the noise levels are acceptable then what's the problem?

    My Zeus 2100b cost $195 and it fit me better and is quieter than the $800 Arai Tour X I also tried.
    $190 head $190 dollar helmet! It passes the standard (tui moment) yeah right! the one they submitted for testing might have passed but what about all the ones falling out of injection moulding machines being run by completely unskilled workers in China.

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    A fool and his money are soon parted.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    I cannot believe what I am reading....are you for real?

    If it passes the standard, is comfortable and the noise levels are acceptable then what's the problem?
    Pretty much what I was thinking. If it meets NZ safety standards why is that not good enought to protect my head? Yes the dearer helmets are made of lighter materials and some of them may look cooler, but where do you draw the line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin G View Post
    $190 head $190 dollar helmet! It passes the standard (tui moment) yeah right! the one they submitted for testing might have passed but what about all the ones falling out of injection moulding machines being run by completely unskilled workers in China.
    Um, what?

    If it passes SHARP, it passes SHARP. It's not a matter of a manufacturer sending over a special helmet.

    You don't like FFM, we get that. But it doesn't necessarily make it unsafe.

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    I can only suggest you do more research as I can see I am beating my head against a wall, but it is OK I am wearing a decent helmet.
    Just because it passes the minimum standard does not make it as good as other more high end helmets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin G View Post
    FFM helmets are low quality, cheap arse plain old nasty bits of crap. Do yourselves a favour and try a real helmet, you will laugh that you thought FFM's were ok. FFM are mass produced to the lowest possible price and when price is the key target guess what suffers...yes thats right quality, design, R&d , testing all the things you really want to be done with what is the only thing protecting your head.
    Ask yourself this question. What is my head worth to me? Probably more than $150 or what ever you pay for a FFM.
    Boy, you really bought into the fancy-pants racer-boy helmet marketing, didn't you?

    Oh well, it's your money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin G View Post
    I can only suggest you do more research as I can see I am beating my head against a wall, but it is OK I am wearing a decent helmet.
    Just because it passes the minimum standard does not make it as good as other more high end helmets.
    I wear a Shoei RAID II, but that's because I have an enormous head and it fit the best. If the FFM had fit the best, I would have bought that.

    The Shoei may be a bit better designed, and quieter, but the FFM will be safe. And, let's be straight here, not everyone has $600 for a helmet.

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    since i first waded into this thread i've been doing research and can't find anything that suggests a 800 branded helmet is any better then a 200 non branded helmet.

    Infact the only in depth article I could find was from the early 2000's where they were harping on about DOT and snell and lo and behold a Lowly HJC helmet was rated second best along side some of the better helmets about.

    Could you point me in the direction your information im keen to carry on reading.

    Careful how hard you bang your head on the wall too, even good helmets are only good for one hit

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    Some years ago, Mrs Ixion bought herself a new handbag. That in itself was not unusual, like most chicks she is constantly buying such stuff.

    What was unusual was that this particular handbag was extraordinarily expensive. Insanely expensive, in fact, I could have bought quite a decent bike for what it cost.

    Pointing that out to her was not a wise move. Fortunately, our lounge couch is quite comfortable to sleep on. I knew not whereof I spoke, she told me.

    A little later we went to Hong Kong . And I espied, in the markets there , handbags apparently identical to her overpriced one. For a mere fraction of the price. She had it with her. I compared it, and the ones in the market quite minutely. Some of the cheap ones (and they were less than a 20th of the price of hers) were , for all practical purposes, identical . Just far more sensibly priced (I mean, how much *should* one pay just for a bag to carry around a lot of clutter).The quality appeare dto be just as good, the materials as good.

    I told her about the cheap bags, identical to hers. What a pity, I said, that you did not know when you bought that very expesive bag, that they could be had so cheaply up here. You could have saved a huge amount of money

    That was a mistake. Fortunately, the couch in our hotel room was quite comfortable for sleeping on. She did know, she told me, that bags apparently (her emphasis) identical could be had very cheaply (and not just in Hong Kong apparently). But the cheap ones are NOT the same she said. I then made another mistake, by asking what the difference was, for I could see none. Well, it seems that the difference was in the name on the label. The cheap ones had a different label. When I expressed incredulity that a label could justify a price tag of around $1000 (I must confess the term rip-off wqas used) I was told, again, that I knew not whereof I spoke. (her phrasing was briefer).

    I still cannot see why chicks are willing to pay through the nose just for a name. But there it is, they will do so. In exactly the same way some people are willing to pay through the nose for the label on a helmet. And not just chicks, either. Though I suspect that the riders who put such store in a lable have more than that in common with chicks.

    If Louis Vitton branched out into the helmet business they would make a fortune.

    Actually, I wonder if there is a business opportunity here. Based on the sales of expensive label helmets , I bet that there'd be a good market in selling overpriced handbags to bikers.

    EDIT: I should clarify that Mrs I is not normally extravagant. The item was to mark a very special occasion, and the price not at all begrudged.
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    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin G View Post
    $190 head $190 dollar helmet! It passes the standard (tui moment) yeah right! the one they submitted for testing might have passed but what about all the ones falling out of injection moulding machines being run by completely unskilled workers in China.
    Please post (with citations) any information you have with regard to riders who have suffered head injuries in crashes due to wearing a sub-standard FFM helmets.
    (note: "a guy you were talking to at the pub" does not count)
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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    as a side note to that, in bali you can buy levis jeans for $15, not only do they look the same but they even come from the same factory
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