Exemption: DENIED.

[Jiminy]

I was given no choice; the practical had to be done in a car, and I had to provide it. Too bad if I'd had no car licence.

The guy who run the course checked for me if I could do it on the motorbike with Andrew from Roadsafe, but at the time it wasn't allowed, so I had to do it in a car (he nicely provided one).

I guess you could just go ahead and ride your bike without the exemption and hope that you don't attract the attention of the police.

And if you did get pulled up, perhaps the cop would be lenient...

However, that would likely void any 3rd party insurance if you have one.

[samgab]

However, that would likely void any 3rd party insurance if you have one.

Also, it would be illegal.
Plus, I have full insurance.

[rickstv]

Seems to me that you can appeal on the grounds that your partner requires the car during the day.
Rick

[NOMIS]

I work shift work, and my shift schedule has recently changed.
So now, 6 nights of every fortnight, I finish work either just after 10pm or just before 5am.
I'm on my restricted, and have never had a motorcycle crash or ticket (where I was the rider, pillion not counted). I'm now 31yo, and relatively responsible.
I got together all of the information required by the LTSA, or NZTA as it's called now:

• Map of my route home from work.
• Exact times/days I would need to travel home (13Kms distance) outside correct hours.
• Letter from me explaining the job I do (111 emergency callcentre) and why the job requires such shift hours.
• Explanation of the reason I can't catch a bus (none run between my house and work in those hours).
• Letter from my Boss (Police inspector) corroborating my letter.

In short, everything required to apply for an exemption.

Paid the $22.20 to put in the application.

4 weeks later, yesterday, received a reply from Helen Scoon of the Transport Registry Centre:
Declined.
Exemptions are not granted for reasons of convenience.
The conditions of the class 6 restricted licence are not unreasonable or inappropriate in my particular case, it seems.

I have to say this seems fairly ridiculous.
I can ride safely at 10pm or 5am, and can ride just as safely at 11pm, or 4am.

Helen goes on to suggest that I take an approved driving course to reduce the time on my Restricted, and wait until I can go for my full.
Trouble is, my shift work hours also make attending the Street Talk courses impossible, as they clash with my shifts, and I can't get time off, the lead time for applications for leave is over 6 Months at work.

Which brings me to another point, which I'll raise in a subsequent post to keep it separate from this rant...

HELEN - ugh that name should not be in a position to make decisions - she also denied me to because of a drink driving charge when i was 16 - not convicted in court because i had been breath tested 3 times that night 5 mins before booze bus one and passed. had a ticket for no wof to proove it and cops stuck up for me - 1 heineken but still shows on my lisence

[CookMySock]

she also denied me to because of a drink driving charge when i was 16

Not surprising - whether you were convicted of it is unimportant. At 16 you shouldn't have been drinking ANY alcohol and riding afterwards. They only exempt people with utterly clean records - squids, petrolheads, pissheads et al need not apply.

Steve

[NOMIS]

Not surprising - whether you were convicted of it is unimportant. At 16 you shouldn't have been drinking ANY alcohol and riding afterwards. They only exempt people with utterly clean records - squids, petrolheads, pissheads et al need not apply.

Steve

that was 6 years ago - I dont drink at all now (maybe one or 2 every month or so) Nad I was driving not riding - i would have my full at the time I applied if I was riding back then :S.

Another thing they stuffed up is , I still got demerit points for it at time of being tested and again in court, I tried to get this reversed but courts say taalk to ltsa ltsa say talk to curts went on with this for about 3 week's - gave up in the end - 100 demerits for 1 drink driving charge I wasnt convicted of they came and took my lisence 3 weeks later - Something even Helen Couldn't explain. idiot government agencies...

[CookMySock]

Ok. I apologise!

I wouldn't worry about the demerits. Actually, they are somewhat of an ace up your sleeve if it ever come to them taking your license because of them, you could tell them to "get bent - talk to the judge." They will KNOW they are on shakey ground legally at that point, and then you have their head on a platter which is nice for a change. Dum de dooo! Oops pig has egg on face again, oh well.

Steve

[Okey Dokey]

Also, it would be illegal.
Plus, I have full insurance.

Well, then you have to accept their ruling that you can't have an exemption just because it would be convenient for you.

[SPman]

I sat on the scooter, rode around the 1 cop car in the carpark, and back to the guy, who issued the full licence on the spot. .

That's basically all I did for my NZ full license

...mind you, it was in '67.........

[rosie631]

That's basically all I did for my NZ full license

...mind you, it was in '67.........

LOL. Or maybe round the block. On a Honda stepthru and then could ride anything you wanted. That was in 1980

[CookMySock]

That's basically all I did for my NZ full license ...mind you, it was in '67.........

Hehe, I just did a ten minute trip around town for my full license, and that was last month, LOL. No U turn, no open road, no hill start, just about 4 blocks of back street puttering and that was it.

Steve

[Ixion]

That's basically all I did for my NZ full license

...mind you, it was in '67.........

Hehe, I just did a ten minute trip around town for my full license, and that was last month, LOL. No U turn, no open road, no hill start, just about 4 blocks of back street puttering and that was it.

Steve

In Edgecumbe it is still 1967

[scumdog]

that was 6 years ago - I dont drink at all now (maybe one or 2 every month or so) Nad I was driving not riding - i would have my full at the time I applied if I was riding back then :S.

Another thing they stuffed up is , I still got demerit points for it at time of being tested and again in court, I tried to get this reversed but courts say taalk to ltsa ltsa say talk to curts went on with this for about 3 week's - gave up in the end - 100 demerits for 1 drink driving charge I wasnt convicted of they came and took my lisence 3 weeks later - Something even Helen Couldn't explain. idiot government agencies...

Sooo... lemme see, you have and EBA coviction AND demerits??

And you expect an exemption?

Mwahahahah...

Sorry shag, not a good look.

Unless you're a politician

[McJim]

I remember speaking to Gremlin who successfuly applied for an exemption.

The crux of it is to prove that you will in fact be SAFER due to the exemption - if you can prove that beyond all reasonable doubt all should be sweet :. If you spend too long talking about what a pain in the arse having restrictions placed on you is they will deny your application.

welcome to the real world.

[NOMIS]

Sooo... lemme see, you have and EBA coviction AND demerits??

And you expect an exemption?

Mwahahahah...

Sorry shag, not a good look.

Unless you're a politician

Errrm read again - was found not guilty = no conviction or disqual (mandatory isnt it?) your a cop you should know the law buddy


And i got given 50 demerits for drink driving the night i got done, went to court I was not guilty then i got a extra 50 from the LSTA - READ MATE READ!!!!! sheesh

so ended up with 100 demerits for something I was found not guilty on and let off with no disqual and when I started getting a letter from some prick from baycorp coming to my home to collect my liscense i was thinking WTF!!!! and after 3weeks of discussions with the great government agencies our country has in place as usual got me know where.

Oh and I wonder what happend to the guy selling drugs in the city i witnessed today while at work - probally nothing....... even though I told police as it was happening.