Exemption: DENIED.

[NOMIS]

I wonder who the copper was that told Constable Andrew i was talking about him on here..... that was a interesting waste of my time at court... Expensive to for seomthn again felt not guilty for.. usual police error hope my brother can do a better job

[Dean]

Samgab, honestly land and transport wouldnt find your reasoning worth an exemption. Its not their problem its just yours mate, if your job requires riding out of hours then its up to you to find another job that fits in with your riding times. If its a big problem alot of alterations can be made to stay in your riding curfew, also there is nothing wrong with getting your car licence. My brothers exemption has been accepted, he weighs about 180 kg and has a medical problem where he cant stop putting on weight, because this is uncontrollable and no 250cc motorcycle can carry his weight safely he is an exception. But im happy to help you out in anyway i can bro

[Patrick]

I know it sucks to be denied the exemption, but I have to side with the LTSA lady.

The licensing exemptions were intended to reduce cases of genuine hardship. If you have a car license and access to a car, then you don't meet the necessary criteria.

I did the same as Samgab, for my Learners, and got it without hesitation, for the same reasons he had.

When I got the restricted, they said I had to apply again, $22.20 thanks for coming. I said no thanks, thats a tank of gas. Didn't "attract" attention then went for the full.

And I had two cars...... but they didn't ask about that......

So by their own reasoning, its a safety thing? Give it to the learner, but not the restricted? Go figure...........

[scumdog]

Errrm read again - was found not guilty = no conviction or disqual (mandatory isnt it?) your a cop you should know the law buddy


And i got given 50 demerits for drink driving the night i got done, went to court I was not guilty then i got a extra 50 from the LSTA - READ MATE READ!!!!! sheesh

so ended up with 100 demerits for something I was found not guilty on

OK, so when they do a check they see you got 100 demerits for an EBA you 'didn't' do??

Whadya think they'll do?

They'll look at the 100 demerits and think hmmmm, there has to be SOME reason he got 'em.

And right or wrong you're screwed.

Even if it seems like I can't read, k?

Hell, I KNOW life ain't fair - but that's life. (Otherwise I'd still have all my fingers and no punch-up scars)

[McJim]

(Otherwise I'd still have all my fingers and no punch-up scars)

'sonly coz you punch like a little girlie

[scumdog]

'sonly coz you punch like a little girlie

Now THERE'S worry - ya know how a little girlie punches.....

[NOMIS]

OK, so when they do a check they see you got 100 demerits for an EBA you 'didn't' do??

Whadya think they'll do?

They'll look at the 100 demerits and think hmmmm, there has to be SOME reason he got 'em.

And right or wrong you're screwed.

Even if it seems like I can't read, k?

Hell, I KNOW life ain't fair - but that's life. (Otherwise I'd still have all my fingers and no punch-up scars)

yes true it is, life isnt fair
and yes i got 100 demerit points due to human error and people who cant be bothered doing there jobs correctly, the lady pollice offficer even shoed up in court and explained to the judge what had ahppend ( about being breath tested 5 mins before failing ) and judge let me off, demerits where still given. ehh?

[PirateJafa]

I work shift work, and my shift schedule has recently changed.
So now, 6 nights of every fortnight, I finish work either just after 10pm or just before 5am.
I'm on my restricted, and have never had a motorcycle crash or ticket. I'm now 31yo, and relatively responsible.

Intriguing. I got an exemption just six months ago when I was still a teenager, which not only allowed me to ride home from the nightshift in the godforsaken hours of the morning, but also to ride a NC30, which is well out of what would be considered the "learner" category.

Just had it amended recently to include the plate number of my second NC30 so that I can ride both legally.

They must be cracking down!

[NOMIS]

Intriguing. I got an exemption just six months ago when I was still a teenager, which not only allowed me to ride home from the nightshift in the godforsaken hours of the morning, but also to ride a NC30, which is well out of what would be considered the "learner" category.

Just had it amended recently to include the plate number of my second NC30 so that I can ride both legally.

They must be cracking down!

Prob because Helen works there now. lol. shes the excemption team leader. I hate how ive done a defensive driving course for my car, and to shorten the period I have to do the same course again for my motorbike - now is that revenue gathering or what... pay enough in rego's

[Patrick]

yes true it is, life isnt fair
and yes i got 100 demerit points due to human error and people who cant be bothered doing there jobs correctly, the lady pollice offficer even shoed up in court and explained to the judge what had ahppend ( about being breath tested 5 mins before failing ) and judge let me off, demerits where still given. ehh?

You got lucky. As you know, it takes time for booze to be processed by the body... that 5 minutes can be the difference from being under, to being over for a young un... (doesn't take much at all to be over for an under 20...).

Consuming alcohol and driving as a learner is a breach of the learner licence conditions and carries 50 demerits.

[PirateJafa]

Prob because Helen works there now. lol. shes the excemption team leader. I hate how ive done a defensive driving course for my car, and to shorten the period I have to do the same course again for my motorbike - now is that revenue gathering or what... pay enough in rego's

Helen Scoon? She's been there at least since I got my first exemption, as she signed that one off. Top lady.

[CookMySock]

OK, so when they do a check they see you got 100 demerits for an EBA you 'didn't' do??

Whadya think they'll do?

Who cares? It's what the judge does that counts. Would YOU stand some supposely-offender in front of the judge on the basis of "There must be some reason for..." ? Unless you like egg on your face, I do not think so.

Steve

[EatOrBeEaten]

Sucks mate, sorry to hear they rejected it.

I've got all the paperwork to apply to get my learner licence period decreased as I've had a UK learner's for years, but I'm not sure they'll give it to me...

[Ixion]

..
Consuming alcohol and driving as a learner is a breach of the learner licence conditions and carries 50 demerits.

? . where is that mandated ? I don't see it in the licence conditions clauses of Driver Licencing Road Rule 1999.

Conditions of learner licence

(1) The holder of a learner licence of a particular class is authorised to drive a vehicle to which that class of licence relates if the holder complies with the following conditions:
(a) The holder must not drive the vehicle (unless driving a motorcycle, moped, or an all-terrain vehicle) unless the holder is accompanied in the vehicle by a person who—
(i) Holds, and has held for at least 2 years, a full licence of a class that authorises that person to drive that vehicle; and
(ii) Is in charge of the vehicle; and
(iii) Is seated in the front passenger seat or, if there is no front passenger seat available, is seated as close as is practicable to the driver; and
(b) in the case of a Class 1L licence, where the holder is driving a car, the holder must display on the vehicle an “L” plate as specified in clause 66:
(c) in the case of a Class 1L or Class 6L licence, where the holder is riding a moped, the holder—
(i) must display on the vehicle an “L” plate as specified in clause 66; and
(ii) must not drive between the hours of 10 pm and 5 am; and
(iii) must not carry another person on the moped or in a sidecar attached to the moped:
(d) in the case of a Class 6L licence, where the holder is riding a motorcycle, the holder—
(i) must display on the vehicle an “L” plate as specified in clause 66; and
(ii) must not—
(A) drive between the hours of 10 pm and 5 am; or
(B) drive at a speed exceeding 70 km/h, unless taking the restricted licence test for a Class 6R licence under clause 48(5); or
(C) drive a motorcycle that has a total piston displacement exceeding 250 cm3; or
(D) carry another person on the motorcycle or in a sidecar attached to the motorcycle

(2) The conditions imposed under this clause are in addition to any conditions imposed on the licence holder under Part 9.

[samgab]

FYI, alcohol limits relating to age:

Legal alcohol limits for driving
The law says you must not drive if the amount of alcohol in your blood or breath exceeds certain age-related limits. These limits are shown below.

Under twenty

You must not drive if you have more than 30 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood, or more than 150 micrograms of alcohol per litre of breath. This is effectively a zero limit – consuming just one alcoholic drink will mean you can be charged with drink driving.

Twenty or over

You must not drive if you have more than 80 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood, or more than 400 micrograms of alcohol per litre of breath.

It is difficult to say how many alcoholic drinks you can have before you reach these limits. It depends on many factors, including:

whether you are male or female
your size
how much food you have eaten.
Because of this, and because even small amounts of alcohol can affect your driving, the best advice is: if you drink at all, don't drive.

If you've been drinking, call a taxi, take a bus or get someone who hasn't been drinking, such as a friend or 'dial-a-driver', to drive you home.