I hate Suzukis!

**White trash** · 5th March 2005, 06:51

Originally Posted by Timber020

the average harley buyer, at least in the US demographically is in his late 40's, earns $78,000 a year, has 3 kids who are of college age and has a white collar management job. Sounds like a midlife crisis market to me.
Harley themselves have said that the generation xers are more interested in sport bikes so sometime in the FUTURE they will have to meet the japanese competition head on. At the moment they can rely on their brand to keep sales up.

You are correct in a roundabout sort of way here. Except they're not going to take it seriously in the future, they are now.

The average Harley owners age is increasing every year. At a HOG conference in Brisbane last Feb, I was the youngest member in attendance. At 28! That aint that young.

If HD were prepared to sit on their laurels, the V-Rod would never have been built.

**Teflon** · 5th March 2005, 06:56

Do Harley still use Japanese carburetors?.

**White trash** · 5th March 2005, 07:58

Yup. Who doesn't?

They also use Holy carbs. They have Showa suspension as well.

**moko** · 5th March 2005, 08:02

Originally Posted by Wolf

I I don't really give a rat's arse about any image associated with Owning A BMW(tm), I just like the look, sound and feel of a boxer twin (hence my wanting and R model, not a K or any of their single banger trail versions).

I`m with you there Wolf,I like them because they`re a rider`s bike,not a summertime toy or impractical poser`s tool.I work in a factory,been a biker since the word meant the same as "gang member" does in N.Z. I`m not and never have been a poser of any kind,I dont give a shit what others think of me or my wheels.I`d have one if I could afford a new-ish one because they`re put together properly and the most relaxing way of getting somewhere far away quick and drama- free while not feeling like you`ve done 10 rounds with the Rock afterwards.I think the difference here between us and most of the other guys in this thread is that we`ve actually ridden one.If tossers want to cruise around at scooter speed with their heads up their arses then that`s their problem,they`d be wankers whatever they drove or rode.

**moko** · 5th March 2005, 08:05

Originally Posted by White trash

Yup. Who doesn't?

They also use Holy carbs.

Yep,buy one and you`ll be praying a lot

**Timber020** · 5th March 2005, 09:47

Originally Posted by scumdog

Why can't the 'other' brands do similar marketing? Just a thought.

Other manufacturers are trying, but they havent got the image created by decades of bearded tatoo covered criminals rolling around the US and being anti social to give them the "rebel" image the Harley rider wants to identify with, or the history.

Indian is trying to do exactly what harley has done, and its doing okay. I cant imagine the honda cruisers working off their heritage-scooters!

**scumdog** · 5th March 2005, 10:20

Originally Posted by White trash

Yup. Who doesn't?

They also use Holy carbs. They have Showa suspension as well.

Had a look at the carb on me Sporty, yup, sure as hell has a lot of holes in it, had a look at the one on my F100 and it has so many holes that they actually call it a Holley!!

**Hitcher** · 5th March 2005, 12:50

Originally Posted by jrandom

The MV Agusta Brutale stands in my mind as the only single actual thing that I sometimes kick myself about not being able to afford due to having a wife and kids. If I hadn't done certain things several years ago (like purchasing overpriced gold rings, subsequently failing to use contraception, etc) I'd be riding one right now.

I'll give you $35,000 for your wife and kids, if that helps...

**MSTRS:Me** · 5th March 2005, 14:00

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**MSTRS:Me** · 5th March 2005, 14:01

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I'll give you $35,000 for your wife and kids, if that helps...

After he's done all the hard work breaking them in?? Cheap barstool. Go find your own.

**jrandom** · 5th March 2005, 19:57

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I'll give you $35,000 for your wife and kids, if that helps...

Tempting.

$40,000 in cash and Mrs H's new Marauder, and it's a deal...

**DarkNinja** · 5th March 2005, 22:42

I prefer Kawasaki just because it was teh family business. They used to own the Kawasaki shop on kent tce or around there before they plonked a flaming great hotel on top of it. I know Kawasakis are different then to what they are now but its still cool to have the kind of bike my grandpappy used to own.

**Teflon** · 6th March 2005, 06:50

Originally Posted by White trash

Not quite.

I can sell you a 1450cc Superglide for $26000 brand new.

In two years time, the HD will still be worth $23-$24K.

And lastly, no Suzuki cruiser kicks arse.

Thats just marketing. Harley's have no innovation unlike a Jappa, thats why they hold there value.

**scumdog** · 6th March 2005, 11:25

Whadaya mean they have no innovation? The went from the old iron shovel-heads to the modern alloy evolution engines in the early 80's!!

**avgas** · 6th March 2005, 12:13

I dont hate brands, just bikes in particular.
I hate choppers (but i repspect the people who build em), but i like cruisiers.
I hate anything with ape hangers.
I dislike trikes.
I hate all the fandagled bmws and goldwings - the remove the point of owning a bike.
I dislike CBR fizzbombers (u know, the ones that whine - not roar - not blades, cbr250rr, hurricanes etc)
I hate ricebikes, u know - the guys who ride em hate streetfighters

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