Multi-compound tyres

[The Stranger:Me]

These multi compound tyres are awesome right. Stick like shit to a blanket and last forever. What more could you ask?

Well I would ask for a little more please.
Went for a wee ride to Taranaki 2up on Saturday on the Fazer.

In the wet the bike was all over the road. Front and rear would frequently break traction and slip and slide. The pillion who is reasonably experienced also commented on how slippery the tyres were.
I must say, that was the slowest trip I have ever done on the Forgotten Highway.

I am running the same multi compound tyre on the rear of the XT also. Again in the wet it is pretty dicey, though I was thinking it must be the bike as the Pirelli's that were on there were just as bad. I don't think so now.

My suspicion is that with the harder rubber in the middle is the issue here.

Having used half a dozen Race Attacks previously on the Fazer I suspect that I am somewhat spoiled, however I don't believe I will be running multi compound tyres again if there is a chance it will still be in service during winter months. It's downright bloody dangerous.

[Gremlin]

urrr.... which tyre...

haven't been happy with the all round performance of the 016, brilliant in the dry tho. Triple compound rear, dual front. Horrible in the wet.

Pirelli Scorpion Syncs, besides being rather expensive, are dual compound and probably the best tyre I have ridden on.

[The Stranger:Me]

urrr.... which tyre...

haven't been happy with the all round performance of the 016, brilliant in the dry tho. Triple compound rear, dual front. Horrible in the wet.

hmm wasn't going to name names lest I was unfairly maligning them, however now that you mention it - pleased I'm not the only one

[howdamnhard]

I've got Michelin Pilot Rd 2 which are dual compound,haven't tried them in earnest in the wet yet, as I ride like a nana when its wet. Hope they are not the multi compound tyres you are talking about.Did a bit of research before getting them and they seemed like a good balance of performance for money for both wet and dry riding.

[yod]

PR2's never failed me in the wet

Sport Attack front let go big time in the pissing rain and hail

[howdamnhard]

PR2's never failed me in the wet

Sport Attack front let go big time in the pissing rain and hail

Thanks Yod , thats reassuring to know.Tyres letting go in hail is understandable as the ice can get between the tyre and road.

[LBD]

[QUOTE=Gremlin;1974688]urrr.... which tyre...

haven't been happy with the all round performance of the 016, brilliant in the dry tho. Triple compound rear, dual front. Horrible in the wet.
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hmm wasn't going to name names lest I was unfairly maligning them, however now that you mention it - pleased I'm not the only one

Oh! and I have a pair of 016 waiting to fit, and I am an all weather rider....

[CookMySock]

As a newbie rider, I found my battleaxes to be just plain horrible and scary in the wet. Every little corner and they would squidge and shimmy.

Fit Michelin PR2 and all that is out the window! Now I just tell my self "bro, they are michelins - just ride the fucker." Now I ignore the wet completely and just ride with confidence. (I'll stay off the painted bits though..) No more squidge and shimmy. No more little slip-and-slide. No more oops - stand the bike up coz I dont trust the road surface. Just plain track-in-a-straight line like a tyre should do to bloody start with.

So I vote FOR dual compound tyres, but hey these are Michelins.

Steve

[SixPackBack]

I'm using 016's for the first time after several sets of sport attacks. Set my suspension a fair bit softer at the front and the bike has never handled better, wet or dry. I'm sold!

[NZsarge]

PR2's never failed me in the wet

Sport Attack front let go big time in the pissing rain and hail

Yeah, the biggest moment (that did'nt result in a bin) i've ever had came with SportAttack's on the FZ1

As a newbie rider, I found my battleaxes to be just plain horrible and scary in the wet. Every little corner and they would squidge and shimmy.

Fit Michelin PR2 and all that is out the window! Now I just tell my self "bro, they are michelins - just ride the fucker." Now I ignore the wet completely and just ride with confidence. (I'll stay off the painted bits though..) No more squidge and shimmy. No more little slip-and-slide. No more oops - stand the bike up coz I dont trust the road surface. Just plain track-in-a-straight line like a tyre should do to bloody start with.

So I vote FOR dual compound tyres, but hey these are Michelins.

Steve

Agreed, the dual compound Michelin's i've used have done nothing but inspire confidence on wet roads, i'm refering to Pilot Power's though. I've heard nothing too crook about PR2's though.

Interesting comments on the Bridgy 016's, sounds like they may be sensitive to bike set up in slippery conditions. Maybe that's why i've had all my big moments on Conti SportAttack's.

Edit: I don't push my luck at all in the wet.

[Cajun]

have found simlar issues with the PP 2ct, its more in when its damp, dry great, wet okay, just in that damp/moist side of thing don't find it very good.

[The Stranger:Me]

I'm using 016's for the first time after several sets of sport attacks. Set my suspension a fair bit softer at the front and the bike has never handled better, wet or dry. I'm sold!

Hmm, what pressures are you running please?
I was 33 front and 40 rear. Could have gone down a bit, but was 2 up, and with gear so figured that shouldn't have been too bad. Mind you I run 30/30 on the XT and as noted they are no better on that.
Got to admit they do stick bloody well in dry, never gave me a problem on the gravel and were passable on damp surfaces - though I was tentative in the damp. But in rain, where they acutally had to clear water - nah, they sucked arse.

[The Stranger:Me]

Sport Attack front let go big time in the pissing rain and hail

Though what are we talking about here please yod, It let go once or twice or consistently?
Because lets face it that can happen now and then on any tyre right and you can't blame the tyre for that. In my experience, you don't frequently get to ride in the conditions you mention above more than once on a set of tyres - I have more tyres in a year than Auckland has hail storms and odds are I wont be out in all of them anyway.

[SixPackBack]

Hmm, what pressures are you running please?
I was 33 front and 40 rear. Could have gone down a bit, but was 2 up, and with gear so figured that shouldn't have been too bad. Mind you I run 30/30 on the XT and as noted they are no better on that.
Got to admit they do stick bloody well in dry, never gave me a problem on the gravel and were passable on damp surfaces - though I was tentative in the damp. But in rain, where they acutally had to clear water - nah, they sucked arse.

Pressures=36 front, 40 rear. Tyres seem to be such a personal thing. I find the 016's have slight initial movement but then stick well. Interestingly the sport attacks did not seem to flash to me in the wet. Recently the bike has had both front and rear shock absorbers serviced and re set-up with obvious positive effect, and it may be that rather than new tyres that has changed the handling.
Next time it will be either the attacks or the 016's [which ever is the cheaper]. I do not use powers-they suck arse IMHO.

[BOGAR]

I had similar issues but cant remember what dual compound I had on now. I did find that it got better as the tyre wore out more though (or it was just that stretch of road that was particularly troublesome). But yea gave me couple of good slips but nothing bad. Still like them at the mo (EDIT: the dual compound type tyre) and have just put a new set on so I will see how they go.