Life and Stuff

[ManDownUnder]

Shame that their rates of mental illness are so high.
Walk tall, be strong is not the way to deal with it. Asking for help is a good start.

Agreed entirely... I always understood Kia Kaha was something you'd tell another... and by inference "I wish you well" and "know that I am with you"

Open to comment on it of course - keen to learn...

[edit] I googled it and found this - http://www.cambogolf.com/about_cambo...y_kia_kaha.htm

It's what I expected
MDU

[Indiana_Jones]

The annoying thing about my life sometimes is my music taste, it's on another level then everyone else
God how I long to meet someone who likes the same music as I

-Indy

[vifferman]

Someone always has it worst off man. When you feel down and shit, you really have to look at others who are less fortunate and realise then maybe appreciate what you have.

I know you are trying to help, MR, and that you have the best intentions, but unfortunately pop psychology and platitudes don't work, except maybe for those who just need a minor attitude adjustment.

I wouldn't wish mental illness on my worst enemy's dog.

[Lou Girardin]

One thing is certain, life's terminal.

[Hitcher]

One thing is certain, life's terminal.

A sexually-transmitted terminal disease.

[Motoracer]

I know you are trying to help, MR, and that you have the best intentions, but unfortunately pop psychology and platitudes don't work, except maybe for those who just need a minor attitude adjustment.

I wouldn't wish mental illness on my worst enemy's dog.

Oh ok, I was just trying to relate with Mikey by letting him know my way of dealing with my problems. He may have greater problems than myself by the sound of things but I thought it was a pretty good way of dealing with them, for most.

[jazbug5]

People who've had close-up dealings with mental illness (whether their own or some close to them's illness) tend to be touchy about some kinds of advice, however well meant. Reason being, many people tend to underestimate how devastating it can be. Because the person is not suffering from any 'obvious' affliction (blood gushing everywhere etc), it's tempting to think that the problem is trivial, and that it's 'all in the mind', and that it's possible to simply reason your way out of it. Mental illness is not due to the sufferer being incapable of seeing beyond their own 'selfish issues'. All too often, the sufferer actually dwells upon their own perceived faults, their own 'selfishness' in being incapable of rising above the awful thoughts they are afflicted with.
If you haven't been ill yourself, or had experience of it close up, it's easy to be hurtful, even with the best of intentions. You shouldn't be put off talking with someone about how they feel, though; just don't be offended if they are touchy and tell you you couldn't possibly understand.
Sorry, just my 2c.

[Motoracer]

People who've had close-up dealings with mental illness (whether their own or some close to them's illness) tend to be touchy about some kinds of advice, however well meant. Reason being, many people tend to underestimate how devastating it can be. Because the person is not suffering from any 'obvious' affliction (blood gushing everywhere etc), it's tempting to think that the problem is trivial, and that it's 'all in the mind', and that it's possible to simply reason your way out of it. Mental illness is not due to the sufferer being incapable of seeing beyond their own 'selfish issues'. All too often, the sufferer actually dwells upon their own perceived faults, their own 'selfishness' in being incapable of rising above the awful thoughts they are afflicted with.
If you haven't been ill yourself, or had experience of it close up, it's easy to be hurtful, even with the best of intentions. You shouldn't be put off talking with someone about how they feel, though; just don't be offended if they are touchy and tell you you couldn't possibly understand.
Sorry, just my 2c.

Thank you for clearing that up Jaz

[pommie girl]

There's a ridiculously alarming statistic that something like 1 in 4 NZ women suffer from depression and yet awareness of this condition amongst us is so low. This is definitely something that people should talk about, get rid of the taboo's and come round to understanding and supporting.

[Zed]

I know you are trying to help, MR, and that you have the best intentions, but unfortunately pop psychology and platitudes don't work, except maybe for those who just need a minor attitude adjustment.

I wouldn't wish mental illness on my worst enemy's dog.

I had typed a paragraph and was about to reply to your post earlier today but decided against it, so I deleted it...Ian, this may or may not be good for you to hear, but you criticising MR's encouraging post here wasn't necessary. It's obvious that you and Sudeep *think* differently so why don't you just let him have his opinion. You could have presented 'your' opinion in a far more gracious manner...for this is a time for graciousness.

I like you, and despite any comments I've made to you in the past, I would rather you come back to KB full-time if you so desired, than to be without the camp.


Zed

[Ixion]

One thing is certain, life's terminal.

Well, no actually, it's not. But I won't labour the point

[Storm]

Are you getting all deep and meaningful/Zen like ?
(I'm confused by the last post)

[Hitcher]

Well, no actually, it's not. But I won't labour the point

Take it to the Scottish thread...

[Storm]

Ahhh, so its one of THOSE ones. Thank you Mr H for clearing that up

[Coyote]

Shit, you think I'm suicidal?! Holy Crap no! Why kill myself when I'm not the problem, and other people are? And I wanna become a MotoGP rider, and that’s far more important than my happiness at this time anyway

And no, I'm not gonna go on a killing spree... but I might take a paintball/BB gun to school sometime