Hardcore Biker
Frosty,Originally Posted by FROSTY
Why don't you tell him that you have someone already lined up for the big bike and want to give them first choice. Then if he wants one of the others then sweet as. If he says about the other one to much, give me a ring and I will come pick it up, say I'm wanting it and then bring it back that night........
At least then you can say he cannot have the bike but can ave one of these other ones....
The instructions are simple...
Best be trying to get him on a small dirt bike for off-road use only to start with.
Can you not explain how many friends and acquaintances you have buried as a result of them on bikes they couldn't handle? He doesn't need to know that is not necessarily the whole truth.
Once you have impressed upon him that your only concern is his welfare, half the job is done....
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
Hardcore Biker
If he is a young kid he will just think.... It wouldn't happen to me, I'm better than them......
Can you not explain how many friends and acquaintances you have buried as a result of them on bikes they couldn't handle? He doesn't need to know that is not necessarily the whole truth.
Once you have impressed upon him that your only concern is his welfare, half the job is done....
Kids these days think they are bullit proof and better than anyone else.
The instructions are simple...
True that...
Still gotta be the fence at the top of the cliff though.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
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Show me the money!
Better Red then Dead...
Good on you Frosty for your stand on this...
I too would not want to sell him a bike either... unfortunately depending on the sort of person he is it may not be hard not to piss him off...
Be honest and give him honest reasons why you are not going to sell it to him and why he should have the smaller cc bike... maybe offer him a good trade up offer when he has the relevant license...
He may go away pissed but may look back at a later date and think this bloke was really looking after me.... especially if he does buy a bigger bike from somewhere else and crashes it due to what you have said to him...
Good luck on how you tell him
Just a Dog
Ya already said ya wont sell it to him ?
Or is he coming back for it !
I'd be straight up and tell him he sucks big time and that your conscience wont allow ya to let him ride away on the higher powered sickle
Sweeten the deal by offereing (what nights do you run the free maint course ?), full workshop availibility on sat sundays (that still going there mate?) and a good buy back deal if the bike is still in one peice when he gets his full, if he took the learner !
Half the ppl he gives bad feedback too (if he were to) would side with ya when they think about it, the other half would grow up eventually !
A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"
Bowls can wait !
Forum whore
These days ????????
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
on the up
Yeah I seem to recall being pretty stupid when young.These days ????????
And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.
- James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.
Somewhere out there...
How old is this 'kid'?
Car licence? Defensive driving?
As someone else said earlier, why the bigger bike?
Is the buy the small one now, big one later feasible in that you could promise the big one down the track...
Most importantly though... if the rest of us can wait to get our 'big' bikes why can't he. We've jbeen in his shoes at some point...
In regard to the age thing, if he's 25 or older, car licensed with a DD course under his belt, he only has to wait 9 months to go from getting his learner to full licence.
Experience-wise, the short courses for getting your full won't make him a good enough rider for a big bike even for track days. Experience comes with time spent on the road especially given the skill level you observed.
Be up-front with him. He won't be happy but he may appreciate it later after he's bought a big one off somebody else and crashes or buy the small one and has a near-miss that would have been a crash in the bigger one.
In my personal experience the second week after first taking my old FXR150 on my learners (4th week after buying as spent first two weeks learning how it felt, changing gears properly and anything else about handling the bike) I was at an intersection on a rainy evening heading home and a stupid wanker (who didn't stop after - probably cos he never noticed what he has done!!!) cut me off. I was turning right, him left, I had right of way but that meant shit to him. I was already half way through my turn when he cut through and my mistake was hitting the brakes straight away before righting my self. I didn't fall off but ended up having to lay the bike down in the middle of the intersection. He drove of on his merry way and bystanders helped me pick my bike up. Not a mistake I would repeat now that I have more experience.
that would be about 50c worth there I think...
Forum whore
or help with enrolling/paying for a basic handling course
mad thou rider
Frosty
what bike did you OFFER him, and what bike did he WANT? perhaps clarifying that will help quell some of the doubters.
I also think that you should tell him you saw him ride and dont think hes ready for the big bike yet, and that if he buys the smaller one, for XXX amount, you will gaurantee him a trade in of XX later when he IS ready for the bigger bike, provided he hasnt crached it.
If he cant see that youre trading with your conscience first and your pocket second after that, then fuck him, hes a dick!!!
Geriatric hoon
On a slight tangent I know but...
If he takes the big bike, and assuming he has actually taken out insurance, what would be the likely position of the insurer when he prangs it?
If he isn't covered, for whatever reason, how does that leave you?
The dilemma could turn out to be financial rather than just moral
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
gee wizzz
Mate if he pays cash there is no financial comeback on me.
Bike wise -the one he wants is TRX850 and the bike he's legally allowed is either a 250 honda or 250 yamaha
The TRX is a bloody nice bike but V twin balls makes 180km/h come by fairly fast and blue spot calipers on the front so the brakes are a tadd er sharp.
To see a life newly created.To watch it grow and prosper. Isn't that the greatest gift a human being can be given?
Jam and tarts....
the trx would kill him. simple. good on you for not selling it to him frosty, bling awarded
Alloy, stainless and Ti polishing.
Bling your bike out!
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