Vinning process

**buggsubique** · 18th March 2009, 19:53

OK, so I Vinned my old DR250 import a couple of years back and had a little bit of paper from Japan that they took off me (sales certificate / manufacturer cert ??). Now there's a few DR650R's around at the moment, some regoed, some not, but come with road gear but have not been regoed before.

Can they be vinned and what little bit of paper will I need? can they just go off frame numbers? I know the DR-Z 400 E off road model can't be road registered unless it came that way from the factory.

Any advice / experience here appreciated!

This is the most helpful lik I found so far: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...=vinned&page=2

Cheers, B

**NordieBoy** · 18th March 2009, 20:58

Originally Posted by buggsubique

OK, so I Vinned my old DR250 import a couple of years back and had a little bit of paper from Japan that they took off me (sales certificate / manufacturer cert ??). Now there's a few DR650R's around at the moment, some regoed, some not, but come with road gear but have not been regoed before.

Can they be vinned and what little bit of paper will I need? can they just go off frame numbers? I know the DR-Z 400 E off road model can't be road registered unless it came that way from the factory.

Any advice / experience here appreciated!

This is the most helpful lik I found so far: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...=vinned&page=2

Cheers, B

I've got a spare vinned DR650 frame sitting here...

**sinfull** · 18th March 2009, 21:09

Aint a biggy or it wasn't for me ! Just had to go into the cops and get them to sign it off that they had no inerest in the bike ! You know the rest !
Edit : the paperwork for the cops to sign off are available at vtnz ! Not a bad idea to get that done first before ya hand over cash for the bike lol !

**NordieBoy** · 19th March 2009, 07:02

There was one DR650 import on here that couldn't get VIN'd.

**MXNUT** · 19th March 2009, 07:30

Take the VIN number into a compliance centre and they can check if it has ever been registered in NZ before. If is has all you have to do is put the bike through the compliance process again --- easy.

If it has not --- assuming it is a Jap import you will need the de registration papers from Japan, without these there is no way to go any further

If the bike was sold new in NZ and conforms to The current braking and lighting rules you may be able to get a cert of compliance from Suzuki NZ ( this is what i did ) , but it takes a while and is a matter of getting the right person.

It took me several attempts to find someone at Suzuki NZ that would do this for me.

**MXNUT** · 19th March 2009, 07:37

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

I've got a spare vinned DR650 frame sitting here...

Sounds to me like the easiest and cheapest option.

**NordieBoy** · 19th March 2009, 10:36

Originally Posted by MOTOXNUT

Take the VIN number into a compliance centre and they can check if it has ever been registered in NZ before. If is has all you have to do is put the bike through the compliance process again --- easy.

If it has a VIN number...

**Crisis management** · 19th March 2009, 11:37

I got caught out a few years ago with an imported (Ex USA) DR650 and there was no way in hell I could get it vinned without the sales receipt from the states, export & import documentation and receipts of sale & purchase from all previous NZ owners. In other words a clear trail of ownership.
Unless its sold new in NZ able to be road registered then I would steer clear of it, having said that, the LTNZ website is helpful and they give good advice if you call them.

**CookMySock** · 19th March 2009, 14:16

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

If it has a VIN number...

All motor vehicles of any type in NZ have some chassis number or similar. When they come into the country this number is put into the LTNZ computer system. It may or MAY NOT be given a LTNZ VIN number and plate.

The first time it is taken to LTNZ they then attach a New Zealand LTNZ VIN Number tag, in addition to the frame/chassis number, whether it is to be road registered or not.

If the vehicle has a frame/chassis number that the LTNZ computer system does not recognise, then they will not touch it, as the vehicle did NOT come through any recognised or authorised border control. At this point you must provide a paper trail.

If a vehicle has NO chassis number, then you start from scratch and it essentially is a homebuilt vehicle. It is perfectly reasonable to register a homemade vehicle. My guess is you will need LV certification here. There are all sorts of obviously dangerous claptrap on the road that are perfectly legal.

Originally Posted by Crisis management

I got caught out a few years ago with an imported (Ex USA) DR650 and there was no way in hell I could get it vinned without the sales receipt from the states, export & import documentation and receipts of sale & purchase from all previous NZ owners. In other words a clear trail of ownership.
Unless its sold new in NZ able to be road registered then I would steer clear of it, having said that, the LTNZ website is helpful and they give good advice if you call them.

In this case, I would be tempted to get an LV cert and try from scratch. If someone can register a shopping trolley as moped, then you can register that DR.

Steve

**buggsubique** · 19th March 2009, 16:29

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

info for africa

Steve

Good advice there mate, that was just what I needed to know, thanks for that. Just waiting to hear the frame details so I can check it out. It's an XR, not a DR - the DR is long since sold. So I'll see how we get on. Thanks again for the post.

**CookMySock** · 19th March 2009, 17:58

Originally Posted by buggsubique

Good advice there mate, that was just what I needed to know, thanks for that.

Pleased to help. That is just what I discovered when I looked at building a motard from an unregistered dirtbike. I lot of that was what I was TOLD so I might have been told wrong too. I didn't go ahead with it coz my circumstances changed, and I had no money to spend on it (crashed my other bike,) so don't take it ALL as fact please.

Keen to hear how you get on.

Steve