Okay, here's the deal (help needed which bike)

**kezzafish** · 19th March 2009, 15:22

i'd say the newer 450 MXer wouldn't be the go for you. They are lighter on the scales but the power is massive and the torque rips your arms off. they are the most tiring bike you could get in my opinion. a 450 enduro bike is probably as heavy as the bike you have now but may be a bit better on the arm ripping tip.

250 2t is the go... I've heard you rave about your boys one so you know you're gonna love it. An enduroy type one will be better still. less arm rippy dippy. 300EXC

**theblacksmith** · 19th March 2009, 15:25

Hi mate - good to see you wanna get back on the bike - thats the spirit. My advice to you is - try a whole heap of different bikes first before you buy anything. If you think about it -there are heaps of different bikes here on KB,I suppose most of them would be happy to let you have a feel of theirs(BIKE!). I suppose it would mean meeting up at a ride or whatever,pre-arranged. I would also go and see how many bike shops would be willing to give you a demo bike to try out. Shop around a bit and come up with your own conclusion.

**LittleJohn** · 19th March 2009, 15:29

Originally Posted by laserracer

Thanks BOOOOM thats what i need to know having not riden a 250f before..if it wasnt for the fact that im limited by $$$ id probably buy a newer 450 cause they are pretty light, but at the mo it looks like maybe a 200 or 250 ..2 stroke, thats fine my sons one has a fww and that makes it easier to ride down low

2 smokers all the way I say.........

You could also look at steering dampners, they are suppose to be really good and make the riding a little easier (don't have to through the bike round as much).

**oldskool** · 19th March 2009, 15:39

Originally Posted by LittleJohn

2 smokers all the way I say.........

You could also look at steering dampners, they are suppose to be really good and make the riding a little easier (don't have to through the bike round as much).

Don't forget the barkbusters, some trainer wheels and you may as well throw in a zimmerman frame!

I wonder when they'll come up with airbags?

**laserracer** · 19th March 2009, 15:41

Thanks Kezzafish , blacksmith, and little john,yeah my 426 has 450 cams and aftermarket stainless header so it goes real HARD ..to hard for this old man ...lol..blacksmith sound advice would really like to try a ktm 200 exc to see what they are like before i make my mind up and maybe a gas gas im pretty keen on a yz 250 but without a fww probably too peaky,little john great idea about the damper i will surely look into it..thank guys

**barty5** · 19th March 2009, 16:21

Originally Posted by laserracer

my 426 has 450 cams and aftermarket stainless header so it goes real HARD would really like to try a ktm 200 exc to see what they are like

same set up i had in mine but with the head ported
like a modern kdx200 in a different colour

**enigma51** · 19th March 2009, 16:32

Originally Posted by laserracer

enigma ..nah the heart attack was caused by coronary heart disease but the weight and effort to lug a heavy bike around just is abit much for my stuffed ticker

Fair call mate

I will be surprised if a lighter bike will give you "less strain".

See if someone wants to borrow you there 250 for a couple of runs before you make a decision.

**B0000M** · 19th March 2009, 16:42

a lighter bike will tire you out a lot less than a heavy bike, and nothing is more tiring that a 450, there is no easy part of the rev range. which is where the 250 2t wins, you can go gently down low in the revs but still have more power than you know what to do with when you open it up

also, they have less enertia weight, which makes them feel lighter too

harder to stall

easier to start when you do stall

cool retro effect

less annoying to neighbours of tracks

**laserracer** · 19th March 2009, 16:48

ok thanks guys..hey barty are you pointing me in the direction of the kdx 200.. i already know i can ride a 250 2stroke as my son has one but is there anything else thought about a klx 300 but to slow same as the drz to heavy wrf250 slow .maybe kdx 200 or ktm 200

**Rupe** · 19th March 2009, 16:54

Originally Posted by laserracer

geez ..oldwinkle..go easy im pretty frail ....NOT...was thinking maybe 250 f.. i dont know?...are they as light as a 250 2 smoke ??.just read an article on thumper or was it woodsracer.com about kx125 with flywheel weight ..search under kx125 woods bike
thanks for the kind words ...i think ..lol...ssssshhhh everybody will want an incredibly sized penis guess im just blessed ...lol

My 07 kx250f weighs 92kg's dry, and feels lighter to ride by a country mile than an un-co KDX. Was thinking of a 125cc as I liked the ones I rode, but after having a few goes on a moden alloy frame 250f I was sold. I'm not telling you to get one, but you should have a go before you make up your mind. You might find the enduro ones a bit tame though.

**clmintie** · 19th March 2009, 16:54

I'm not going to recommend a bike for you, I find choosing a bike very personal... BUT, while I never actually had a heart attack, I did get pretty close and I'm not giving up riding either, don't care what anyone says, lying in HDU for a few days makes everything thing in life much clearer...

Last night I rode Grace's KX125 at Ardmore instead of the KDX. It's a rocket ship and way too easy to go faster than I should...

**barty5** · 19th March 2009, 16:55

Originally Posted by laserracer

ok thanks guys..hey barty are you pointing me in the direction of the kdx 200.. i already know i can ride a 250 2stroke as my son has one but is there anything else thought about a klx 300 but to slow same as the drz to heavy wrf250 slow .maybe kdx 200 or ktm 200

most certainly not by ant means that is how i see them. Parts for the ktm are more likely to cost more and there is the point that the kdx isnt made any more. For the money your spending dont think you would get much in the way of a 4s although rupe got a 07 kz250f for round 4500 and dont be fooled they go all right couple a mates have 250 4s and you can all ways add a few aftermarket hot ups

**takitimu** · 19th March 2009, 16:55

Originally Posted by laserracer

Thanks Kezzafish , blacksmith, and little john,yeah my 426 has 450 cams and aftermarket stainless header so it goes real HARD ..to hard for this old man ...lol..blacksmith sound advice would really like to try a ktm 200 exc to see what they are like before i make my mind up and maybe a gas gas im pretty keen on a yz 250 but without a fww probably too peaky,little john great idea about the damper i will surely look into it..thank guys

Good luck with the ticker, here's an oddball idea, a YZ144, aka 125 with a 144 kit.