TV1 - Close Up @ 7.00pm - Returning riders causing accidents (20 March)

**Swoop** · 20th March 2009, 18:48

Are they pumping "P" into the studio??

Can't those fuckwits speak at a normal rate?
Phil Goff was appearing "sensible" for 15 seconds but then reverted to his normal amount of stupidity.

But harley's are "slow" and "dangerous" according to this broadcast...

**naphazoline** · 20th March 2009, 18:48

I felt it was disrespectful to Craig and his family.Craig wasn't in a midlife crisis,he's ridden all his life,so you can't say he's returning to riding,he could ride very well,and to top it all off,he was a fucking nice guy,from a nice family.

R.I.P Craig Blinkhorn.

He'll be sadly missed around here.

**Ocean1** · 20th March 2009, 18:49

Originally Posted by Lucy

The number of deaths had increased, but later on they said the number of registrations had quadrupled. They didn't join the two stats together and I couldn't remember the number, but it didn't seem like the 'rate' of deaths had increased hugely. (compared to number of bikes)

Ya reckon?

You're right, it's a crock. The carnage is lower now than at most times in our history, relative to the number of riders. That's largely because the BAB's crash stat's are lower than the rest of the age demographic.

**fliplid** · 20th March 2009, 18:49

Originally Posted by AllanB

Then again a 16 year old can pass the test and buy a skyline on the way home.............

Aint the point that they can drive any of the higher powered type cars on a base point license? As in with no legally defined progression?

**Rockbuddy** · 20th March 2009, 18:52

the government owned tvnz were told to run that "beat up" on motorcyclists so the can justify raising the acc levies on our registration. just wait and see

**Lucy** · 20th March 2009, 18:54

Originally Posted by AllanB

Then again a 16 year old can pass the test and buy a skyline on the way home.............

Gotta get a garage, gotta get a gottage, gotta get a skyline.

**gunrunner** · 20th March 2009, 18:54

They say the average age is 38 now not 22 .

Buts it the 22 year olds in those turbo charged imports that are doing the damage now , why dont they do a follow up on that .

NC · 20th March 2009, 18:54

They are old enough to make their own decisions, no matter what the out come.

In other words, Stupid is as stupid does

**carver** · 20th March 2009, 18:56

Originally Posted by NC

They are old enough to make their own decisions, no matter what the out come.

In other words, Stupid is as stupid does

nice, i like your thinking

**AllanB** · 20th March 2009, 19:01

Originally Posted by NC

In other words, Stupid is as stupid does

The problem with the stupid is that they tend to wipe out the innocent

**Sketchy Snr** · 20th March 2009, 19:04

I saw this and was amazed, the freind of the huabusa man interviewed said and can you believe this that Harleys dont go round corners . Shit i came home over paekakariki hill tonight, transit have done an amazing job on that road lately, i didnt have to turn one corner luckily . Maybe i'm just pissed cause i fit into that catagory, middle aged Harley rider. Its allways easier to pick on the Harley rider. Oh well i,m still going to keep riding those straight roads.

NC · 20th March 2009, 19:06

Originally Posted by AllanB

The problem with the stupid is that they tend to wipe out the innocent

Well, AllanB from Christchurch. It happens, shit that is.
Another reason to ride alone.

**sinned** · 20th March 2009, 19:18

The programmers were fitting footage into a theme that was "middle age crisis" and motorbikes - esp HDs. Nothing else mattered to making a story to fit the slot. They even had a shrink in the programme to try and give it some credibility.

Originally Posted by sil3ntwar

Anyone else notice the MP riding the bike on tv without wearing a helmet? Didnt catch the name.

I was walking through Parliament grounds a days/weeks ago (hell old age and short term memory loss) and wondered why HDs were being ridden around.

Originally Posted by davereid

Haha... the obsession with a motorcycles cc rating is as old as err, well its pretty old.
My (commuter) 650 is wayyyy quicker tham my Harley Sportster ever was.
Even if we only got rid of "THE SINGLE WORST THREAT TO SAFETY" every year, in time, all would be banned.

The Hayabusa is pretty tame so long as the revs are kept below 4 -5k. Size and power does not relate directly to risk.

Originally Posted by snodpete

Yeah - I'm cynical about the Close Up coverage - yet as a relative n00b and 'mature' returning rider I fit right in the demographic of highly at risk 'temporary NZers'...

I'm constantly mindful of the danger and do fear the reaper - looking at a 650 for first real bike, will that make me safer? I wonder.

I am a BAB - and returned to a 1000cc bike 2+ years ago - in hindsight I should have started with a smaller bike where I would have more easily regained bike control skills.