ACC whinge

[Molly]

I'm guessing a lot of us own more than one bike and it seems unfair to have to pay an ACC levy on each when they can only be ridden one at a time (I could own ten bikes and it wouldn't change the number of kilometres I'll do in a year).

There's got to be a fairer way hasn't there? Stick it on the fuel maybe? Make people buy their own compulsory insurance based on their individual risk?

[mikeey01]

I'm guessing a lot of us own more than one bike and it seems unfair to have to pay an ACC levy on each when they can only be ridden one at a time (I could own ten bikes and it wouldn't change the number of kilometres I'll do in a year).

There's got to be a fairer way hasn't there? Stick it on the fuel maybe? Make people buy their own compulsory insurance based on their individual risk?

Don't stop just their, take every lawn mower in Auckland, each of those have just had a few cents go to acc, roading etc etc etc.. now add this up around the country and you start to deal with massive numbers!

I hear ya though, I say share that rego / plate around the bikes

[motorbyclist]

meanwhile i pay road tax on the fuel for my motox bikes.....

[Crazy Steve]

How about, try never claiming Acc ever...

But yet continuously paying and paying....

Always riding with FULL Gear...and when seeing peeps riding in shorts and tee shirt....Wondering why I'm paying when they make a mistake.....

Surley I should only pay for my Own Mistakes ? ?

Crazy Steve...

[Katman]

meanwhile i pay road tax on the fuel for my motox bikes.....

Well you don't pay any ACC for them.

[Macros]

Surley I should only pay for my Own Mistakes ? ?

Ahh yes.... Socialised medicine sure is evil. The health care system in the states is where it's at.

[FJRider]

I'm guessing a lot of us own more than one bike and it seems unfair to have to pay an ACC levy on each when they can only be ridden one at a time (I could own ten bikes and it wouldn't change the number of kilometres I'll do in a year).

There's got to be a fairer way hasn't there? Stick it on the fuel maybe? Make people buy their own compulsory insurance based on their individual risk?

I'm guessing a lot of people have more than one car too... ACC levies for them are increased for them now.

There is enough tax on fuel now...

Compulsory insurance will negate the need for Goverment tax sponsored ACC....

[motorbyclist]

How about, try never claiming Acc ever...

But yet continuously paying and paying....

Always riding with FULL Gear...and when seeing peeps riding in shorts and tee shirt....Wondering why I'm paying when they make a mistake.....

Surley I should only pay for my Own Mistakes ? ?

Crazy Steve...

it's either that or they get hurt, but don't go to a doctor for financial reasons, and then as a result of the injury their working ability is impaired and they either end up on a benefit, or otherwise as a drain on society

I hope i never have to argue with a health insurer. automotive insurance is bad enough

Well you don't pay any ACC for them.

actually, yes i do, and not only in my wages etc etc

tis called an MNZ licence, required to enter any half decent event and the majority of the fee goes straight to ACC

of course, i've never actually required acc of my own fault, unless riding the bike in the first place can be considered my fault, and even then i'm yet to have a serous injury (worst i had was an xray and a sling, no breaks or stitches... and one ambo callout after an idiot cager on muriwai did his best to ruin my weekend)

meanwhile my regular dirt riding buddy is practically on a first name basis with paramedics and emergency staff

[arj127]

There's got to be a fairer way hasn't there? Stick it on the fuel maybe? Make people buy their own compulsory insurance based on their individual risk?

I said something similar to this not that long ago, and most people just gave me shit about it (including Katman). Can't see why i should have to pay ACC on my car rego and then again on my bike rego, i can only use one at any one time!!

Put it on the fuel, then anyone using pays, the dude down the road who chops his toe off cause hes cutting his lawn in jandals.

[FJRider]

I said something similar to this not that long ago, and most people just gave me shit about it (including Katman). Cn't see why i should have to pay ACC on my car rego and then again on my bike rego, i can only use one at any one time!!

Put it on the fuel, then anyone using pays, the dude down the road hows chops his toe off cause hes cutting his lawn in jandals.

Perhaps a road user tax (Per kilometer as for Diesel vehicles) on ALL motor vehicles... the more you travel, the more risk of injury, the more you pay.

Put it on the fuel and to cover the ACC shortfall.... petrol will be around $5.00 a litre.... IMMEDIATELY... do we really want that ???

[arj127]

True that, FJ, maybe a portion of both is a good idea, that way anyone using fuel, such as fisherman, jetski riders, mx what ever will be contributing towards ACC. I don't mind paying road user tax, average user is 20000k per year, divided by roughly $220 ACC on our rego = $0.011 per kilometre if i have done my calcs right

[MotoKuzzi]

There is a way of claiming back the road tax component of petrol if you can prove it's not being used on public roads. Used to do it on the petrol tractor and Quad bike i had. Don't know whether it only applies to businesses or not. Fuel tax rego board or some such Quango can't remember the details now.

[FJRider]

Simple rule of goverment... you can not please everybody... so they do not try...

[FJRider]

There is a way of claiming back the road tax component of petrol if you can prove it's not being used on public roads. Used to do it on the petrol tractor and Quad bike i had. Don't know whether it only applies to businesses or not. Fuel tax rego board or some such Quango can't remember the details now.

I believe you need to be GST registered... or similar term...

[rosie631]

I'm guessing a lot of us own more than one bike and it seems unfair to have to pay an ACC levy on each when they can only be ridden one at a time (I could own ten bikes and it wouldn't change the number of kilometres I'll do in a year).

There's got to be a fairer way hasn't there? Stick it on the fuel maybe? Make people buy their own compulsory insurance based on their individual risk?

I agree. Not sure of the answer but the current system is BULLSHIT