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Thread: Press Release: CBR1000RR & CBR600RRABS

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    Trail Braking

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoon View Post
    Fine in a straight line but what I want to know is will it save a front wheel tuck from tipping into a corner too fast with too much front brake?
    The blurb says it should - and no reason why it shouldn't. Thinking about track riding here. The front tucks when you're trailing too much brake because the tyre is locking - abs would release pressure and the tyre would regain grip. Better than a helmet full of dirt.
    Now, why doesn't it have traction control?? No losing the front on the way in, no highside on the way out, only way to crash is too much corner speed (very difficult but fun to try...)

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    First it was the Steering damper controlled by the ECU then throttle flyby wire now its the brakes controlled by the ECU ?? , so when the ECU developes a fault & forgets to apply the ABS that you have become totaly dependent on what then !! Good on them tho the more shit they can put on the better the bike must be Right ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    First it was the Steering damper controlled by the ECU then throttle flyby wire now its the brakes controlled by the ECU ?? , so when the ECU developes a fault & forgets to apply the ABS that you have become totaly dependent on what then !! Good on them tho the more shit they can put on the better the bike must be Right ??
    Happy to be proved wrong here, but in the years that cars have had ABS and traction control etc I have never heard of an ECU problem resulting in failure. There must be backups and at the end of the day many more lives will be saved by having this feature than not. Yes racers can stop quicker without ABS but even they use electronic aids. I remember reading a test in one of the UK mags and in the wet a racer did not stop quicker than ABS at the first attempt. Unfortunately you only get one attempt in an emergency.

    The problem with weight will be overcome as bikes use more exotic (read expensive) materials.

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    And linking some rear brake from the front brake for the stability it induces is a good idea for all those igjots that use front brake only.

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    Here's some really good info on the system:

    http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...iew-87864.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    I can't say I liked the idea of ABS....until I attended a Brian Bernard trackday and they did the emergency braking drill. The big heavy ABS equipped BMW's and Pan Europeans shit all over everything, race bikes included, when it came to stopping in the shortest possible distance. No fuss, no skill required, just incredible stopping every time.

    Unless you are Craig Shirriffs the average rider hasn't got a hope in hell of stopping anywhere near as quickly as they could on an ABS equipped bike.
    I accept utterly that an ABS equiped bike can stop better than I can.

    When its working properly

    But I maintain enough old equipment to know that this can be an issue

    At the core I just really dont like the idea that the system can decide to disable the brakes

    So, No - If I were buying a 2008 Fireblade (Yeah, Right!) I would NOT be spec'ing ABS

    Just my $0.02

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    And then I've never liked linked brakes ala MotoGuzzi. I like to be able to control front and rear individually.

    And I like to spin and slide

    Plus there is the 10 to 11 kg weight penalty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    The Honda website has them at $25,950 RRP. You'd get one cheaper if you have polished your negotiation skills.

    However, if you want to save yourself a few thousand dollars are are prepared to sacrifice yourself on quality and style, then there's always the Suzuki GSXR1000.
    $26k retail + the $2.5k premium for ABS makes it a little too close to $30k tho - I did say retail pricing not street!
    Better to keep quiet and have people think you're stupid than open your mouth and prove it!

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