Arghh Bike Shops advertising bike less rego price

[hobdar]

(this is the excessive use of angry smilies thread)

What is it with bike shops (Not counting TSS) advertising bikes on bikepoint less rego costs (or On road cost in some cases)???


This really rattles my chain, you find a nice bike in your price range and all of a sudden its thank you very much for your enquiry it is a very nice bike and the price does not include on road costs which in some cases can be like $300...arghh

Breath in breath out arghh (sorry more excessive use of the angry smilie)

[inlinefour]

The only time it would really peeve me is if they did not make me aware of this fact. In that case I'd be giving them two options: 1. Do the on road work for free, or 2. Watch me walk out the door and find me purchasing a bike elsewhere. From experience though (Honda dealers) they are happy with the first option and are keen to make the sale (probably making enough $$$ as it is).

[gav]

Option 3, don't register it....as in a lot of dirt bikes, farm bikes, track only bike etc. If you can't afford the extra $300, can you really afford the bike in the first place?

[Jackrat]

Other types of shops do it when quoting prices over the phone ect,then you get there and they add GST.
After driving into the city on a Saturday morning with the correct cash,that can be a bit annoying.
It's just become part of the sales pitch.

[FROSTY:Me]

dude Im in the vehicle sales bizzo.
I agree with the earlier post .If ya want a yamasuzaki gszsvr589 then for sure another shop will have the same bike.
I'd suggest ya be honest and tell em you're shopping around for the best deal. Don't bother BS ing them because the bike industry is a vers small community and the truth will be found out.
Oh and get the guys name and position in the company. Make sure that what hes quoting ya is total cost -no extras.

[Skunk]

If it's a currently registered bike or a road bike the price should include on road costs or at the very least list the price with this included. It's just to make the price look better (like $12,999.99 looks better than $13,000!)

Other types of shops do it when quoting prices over the phone ect,then you get there and they add GST.
After driving into the city on a Saturday morning with the correct cash,that can be a bit annoying.
It's just become part of the sales pitch.

That pisses me off. Deep breath. Continue.

[hobdar]

Option 3, don't register it....as in a lot of dirt bikes, farm bikes, track only bike etc. If you can't afford the extra $300, can you really afford the bike in the first place?

It more about comparing apples with apples...you see a price on bikepoint, i would automatically assume it was with at least 3 months rego if not 6...maybee my mistake but from my experience with TSS (who i like btw) (and a few other Wgtn shops) they have the on-road costs on the bike in sotre (or tell you asap) and i believe that they also show the bike with on-road costs on bikepoint..lots from the emails around to various places in Wgtn and around the country don't....makes it harder to track a reaonably priced bike on a limited budget...

And yes i can afford the bike straight up, and the gear helmet jacket boots etc (theres $700 for reasonable gear just like that) but add on the rego and then it is stretching the budget just that little bit too far,

[hobdar]

dude Im in the vehicle sales bizzo.
I agree with the earlier post .If ya want a yamasuzaki gszsvr589 then for sure another shop will have the same bike.
I'd suggest ya be honest and tell em you're shopping around for the best deal. Don't bother BS ing them because the bike industry is a vers small community and the truth will be found out.
Oh and get the guys name and position in the company. Make sure that what hes quoting ya is total cost -no extras.

Yeah no problems with that at all, I just find it annoying so am venting, i do have a limited budget, and as its only going to be ridden for 6 months max (yay then Mrs Hobdar says i can spend a reasonable amount on my FZR 400 or something similar) I am trying to spend as little as possible, it just means that now the first thing i ask is whats the on road costs and have to spread my 'looking' range further....just makes what should be a simple process that little bit more complicated and really if on-raod costs or rego is not included then i think they should say on the ad (IMNSHO)

[Wolf]

Never been an issue with me - never able to afford a brand new bike. All the bikes I've bought have either had at least the legal minimum amount of registration and WOF already on them or were clearly advertised "As-is, where-is".

Would piss me off though if I thought it was going to cost me so much but ended up costing $300 more.

[vifferman]

Well, I think that the price should be the price, not "plus this, that and the other thing". But, having said that, there's insurance and stuff to pay anyway.
The main thing for me is honesty. When we bought the VifFerraRi, my wife said, "Hey! How come this isn't registered?!?"
SalesShark: "Oh - that's normal. We don't have them registered while they're sitting here, but we'll do that before you pick it up, so you get the benefit of the whole registration period."
Awriiiight!!
Having recently registered the VTR for 12 months, we were pleased about this. Until we picked the bike up, and found out they'd registered it for 6 months only!
So the phukkers had cancelled the rego on the VTR and claimed back the remaining 11-ish months, and registered the VFR for 6, making a profit on the deal!

[Wolf]

Until we picked the bike up, and found out they'd registered it for 6 months only!
So the phukkers had cancelled the rego on the VTR and claimed back the remaining 11-ish months, and registered the VFR for 6, making a profit on the deal!

That is a slimy deal. I'd've been royally spewing. My understanding of "the whole of the registration period" would be "12 months", so I'd be pissed right off that I'd got 6 rather than 12 - even more so if I'd worked out that if they hadn't dicked with the rego it would have still had 8 to 11 months left on it...

[ktulu]

It is a sales pitch and it is annoying but so long as they are up front about it I guess there is nothing wrong with it.

I work in sales and we quote everything plus gst (it is a written quote and very clearly labelled Plus gst) but I do think that this is wrong because no one ever pays less GST up front its just that some can rebate back later so for this reason I think it should be illegal to quote as plus GST.

On another note, what the fuck is up with the airlines with the..... 199$ fare!!!!! and then in small writing - plus surcharges and taxes of 125$. Well that is$324 where I come from, if you HAVE to pay those charges when you get the fare then it is only fair that this be the price.
Its like me saying "your fence will cost $50 plus materials plus labour, plus overheads, plus delivery" Total of $5000 but I can say this fence costs $50... its fucked


Rant over

[Motu]

Other types of shops do it when quoting prices over the phone ect,then you get there and they add GST.
After driving into the city on a Saturday morning with the correct cash,that can be a bit annoying.
It's just become part of the sales pitch.

This pisses me off too - I think I'm the only guy in my game who works GST inclusive,they all work exclusive and add GST at the end.When GST came in I was in the hire industry and we priced inclusive,then at a couple of service stations we did too,but the workshop crowd all work exclusive.I think I lose quite a bit of work by my quotes being excessive,the stupid customers not realising they are being tricked.Like,you tell a guy it'll be $100 plus GST and how much do you reckon he'll have in his pocket when he comes to pick it up? I'm sticking to my guns on this one and they all reckon I'm crazy,but I like to tell the customer how much it's really going to cost.

[Wolf]

This pisses me off too - I think I'm the only guy in my game who works GST inclusive,they all work exclusive and add GST at the end.When GST came in I was in the hire industry and we priced inclusive,then at a couple of service stations we did too,but the workshop crowd all work exclusive.I think I lose quite a bit of work by my quotes being excessive,the stupid customers not realising they are being tricked.Like,you tell a guy it'll be $100 plus GST and how much do you reckon he'll have in his pocket when he comes to pick it up? I'm sticking to my guns on this one and they all reckon I'm crazy,but I like to tell the customer how much it's really going to cost.

I always ask if GST is included as I'm used to the IT industry always quoting GST-excluded prices. Think it is stupid, though, because even if you are in business you still have to pay the price + GST up front. Better to advertise it as "$900 (but you can claim back $100 if you're GST-exempt)"

[Lou Girardin]

On another note, what the fuck is up with the airlines with the..... 199$ fare!!!!! and then in small writing - plus surcharges and taxes of 125$. Well that is$324 where I come from, if you HAVE to pay those charges when you get the fare then it is only fair that this be the price.
Its like me saying "your fence will cost $50 plus materials plus labour, plus overheads, plus delivery" Total of $5000 but I can say this fence costs $50... its fucked
Rant over

The Commerce Commision think so too.
Then you have AirNZ bleating about Emirates fare structure, then it's revealed that they've shown a profit last year of at least $19 million out of their fuel surcharge.
There's silly me thinking that a surcharge was purely to cover the extra cost.
Stuff 'em. Emirates are better to fly with anyway.