DB1k 2010 ideas thread

[buggsubique]

What are others thoughts on entry fees, promoting the ride, liability (have I interpreted the situation right?) entry numbers etc. Be aware that if this becomes too much hassle re insurances, promoting etc I'm not that inclined to spend the time as it would involve significantly more time than it currently does.

Thanks for bring this stuff up cause it is exactly what I'd like feedback on.

Cheers R

I reckon keep it "underground". in the end i guess it is inevitable it will gain mass, but an "organised" ride like this would just be carnage wouldn't it? 50 - 100 bikes going through molesworth, descending on gas stations, crossing porika / maruia etc. I guess I don't see any real merit in it being promoted is my point. Ryan has given us something good here that we can indulge in, why share it!?

[junkmanjoe]

may be put a cap on number off bike, say 30-35.

i put a cap on my last coast ride at 15 bikes.

was a easy group to keep an eye on, as it was private land.

all were behaved...

just a thought.

[warewolf]

Interesting comment WW. Seems I'm not the only one who notices this. This is one of the reasons I don't like the Murch/Springs/Murch leg.

It was more the back-to-base-and-out-for-more that was the issue, not the re-tracing your wheel tracks.

I'm not fussed by the repeat. I agree with the others that liked to see where other people were, and that the roads were different going the other way. My reluctance to put riders on a two-way route is balanced by the fact that we are on public roads not closed-course conditions. Thoughts and discussion is the way to go.

On Black Birch today, I was thinking that it should be advertised as 'single bike lane, be prepared to stop and give way at any time' because although you can get a car up there, in many places you wouldn't really want to be using one of the wheel tracks. It's really eroded out big time. It's okay if you're happy riding in foot-deep ruts and over foot-high rocks, otherwise you are going to use the right-hand wheel track at times.


The suggestions about the 2-day timing were all about reducing chin-wagging stops, not riding faster. Chat at the end of the day over a beer, rather than en-route.

[Woodman]

Ryan , do you know anything about this Doughboy road?
possible route to stop a doubleback on the dusty, I haven't done it but was flicking through my tasman rural address book and spotted it.
followed it on google maps and it seems to disapear for a while.
You probarbly already know of it but fyi anyway.
Worth an explore one day.

[cooneyr]

Ryan , do you know anything about this Doughboy road?
possible route to stop a doubleback on the dusty, I haven't done it but was flicking through my tasman rural address book and spotted it.
followed it on google maps and it seems to disapear for a while.
You probarbly already know of it but fyi anyway.
Worth an explore one day.

Wasn't aware of it possibly linking right through but had seen the Murch end and thought where does that go. On the list to be investigated further

Cheers R

[helenoftroy]

All in all I think the DB rules!

Mmmmm nachos....

It was an awesome adventure for me!!loved it
Food tasted extra good that night

Easy. No accidents or punctures or drownings or rain allowed.

I didnt like the drowning much either!

ive heard all the stories about this ride.
and very keen to ride it my self.

so keep up the good work.
im looking forward to the day.

Lifes for living......hope I get to do it again too(with some female company maybe??)

[Padmei]

Well well well if it isn't the little river princess herself popping her head up

How have ya been & been getting the DR out much? Hopefully next year Mrs Jatz' Ten will be running & Mygsx will have a bike to ride to prop up the female numbers.

I'm gonna keep a spare pair of dry boots in the truck next time- my toes have only just started to unwrinkle

[cooneyr]

I've put together two Otago routes for the DB1k. The first one I wasn't too excited about. The second one I like quite a lot. The prefered route is around about 1100kms and about 840km of gravel (to be confirmed with a ride over). This is about 76% gravel/dirt as opposed to the 53% (550kms) for the current route.

It doesn't have any Mangatapu, Porika, Mt Arthur type challenges but it does have a lot more creek crossings, more rutted and possibly muddy if wet tracks, Omarama saddle and some really nice flowing gravel roads.

Starting/finishing point would be Fairlie where there is a reasonable range of accommodation options and it is reasonably central for all to get too i.e. within a days ride from anywhere in the SI.

Using a similar process as last time to calc travel times I recon about 19.5 hours including 6 fuel stops for smaller fuel tanked bikes (max range needed 180kms) or 18.5 hours with four stops for larger fuel tanked bikes (max range of 340kms).

Looking good for a two day ride as well as heaps to see along the way.

Cheers R

[helenoftroy]

Well well well if it isn't the little river princess herself popping her head up

How have ya been & been getting the DR out much? Hopefully next year Mrs Jatz' Ten will be running & Mygsx will have a bike to ride to prop up the female numbers.

I'm gonna keep a spare pair of dry boots in the truck next time- my toes have only just started to unwrinkle

The river Princess will do her utmost not to repeat the dunkingbut maybe she should provide thigh high waders for the burly rescuer just in case?

Trusty DR is going just fine,tho slightly sidelined with a new toy,a bucket racer!!

Cooneyr...all sounds very exciting!

[Paladin]

Well well well if it isn't the little river princess herself popping her head up

How have ya been & been getting the DR out much? Hopefully next year Mrs Jatz' Ten will be running & Mygsx will have a bike to ride to prop up the female numbers.

I'm gonna keep a spare pair of dry boots in the truck next time- my toes have only just started to unwrinkle

We''ll have to see if us norverners can encourage some NI female additions too; surely we can get Rosie to come at least!

[NordieBoy]

Trusty DR is going just fine,tho slightly sidelined with a new toy,a bucket racer!!

Too big for the small bike challenge

[buggsubique]

Looking good for a two day ride as well as heaps to see along the way.

Cheers R

I reckon at that I'd be considering the 2 dayer - take it all in, lower risk, enjoy the riding a little more. 1000km in one day was awesome, glad to have done it, but slightly longer ride, slightly more gravel, might as well make the most of it. Does sound good though!

[cooneyr]

Lot of water to go under the bridge between now and then but I'm quite keen on doing the two day ride pillioning my wife. I've done most of the tracks in the last few years and it should be pretty easy to do this. If our circumstances change then I'll be looking at doing it on a 125.

Either way the scenery is so different (compared to the Northern SI route) and spectacular plus there is heaps of historic mining places along the Otago route. Things like mine shafts you can have a look in, at least two quartz stampers, one of which still has its water wheel. The only complete stamper/water wheel I've found that is still at its orignal site. Both stampers are off the route slightly and need walking too. A further water wheel that can be seen from the track. The highest altitude church in the country, lots and lots of stone mining huts/houses, and other mine sites with tailings etc. Also we would go past some stone fence posts which are really unique and there is quite a few dams (Benmore being the largest) and associated power generation/transmission gear that we would pass.

There is a plaque in the church that reads something like this - "At a service to be held at this church the minister arived hours late and the congregation had reconvened to the nearest public bar. By the time the minister started the sermon the congregation had had a bit to drink and so called for an encore" - or something like that. Very unique place.

Seems I dont need much more convincing to do the Otago route this year - do you??? What is the general feeling (not much point in running a poll this far out, I'll do it later in the year)

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

Seems I dont need much more convincing to do the Otago route this year - do you??? What is the general feeling (not much point in running a poll this far out, I'll do it later in the year)

I'd say go Otago for the "official" DB1k10.

But for those who can't make it, an "unoffical" 2-day running of the "old" course would be quite easy to organise

[Transalper]

I'm keener to go south.
Reckon we should do South. Forget the poll. The Northern info is still there if others who want to go that way want to organise themselves to go North without us.