Yamaha R6 sump plug bolt. HELP!

[vgcspares]

alternatively take the sump off and get an engineer to fix it properly - the swarf may only be aluminium but probably best not to have any floating about

[Ixion]

I have tackled this problem in the past. There is no quick-good-easy option.

Usually the plugs are hollow. So if you hacksaw the head off the plug you are left with the stripped thread bit remaining in the sump, with a hole through it. A small saw blade up through the hole, cut two axial cuts into he remainder of the plug and collapse it inward. Then retap or helicoil. I have successfully put in a external and internal threaded adaptor, secured with araldite, and used a smaller plug.

If none of that makes sense, take it to an engineering works.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I am amazed its not leaking. but what if it starts? It will piss oil all over your rear tyre. That sounds like fun in Orklind traffic.

get it fixed properly. I would be tempted to drop the sump off with the plug still in it so someone can get at the plug from the other side. Drain the oil as much as poss from the filter first and live with having to clean up the mess it will surely make.

nice bit of swarf blocking an oilway, say to one of your cams? that sounds like fun too.

[mark247]

I wouldnt ride it, if it falls out and you dont notice, you will fuck the engine something wholesale if you keep going too far. I had this happen on a dirt bike, luckly I stopped 100meters up the road anyway..

[puddy]

You BIG BURLY MAN you! You're what prettybillie needs to push her bike up onto the trailer. Good luck!

[F5 Dave]

Well there's a lot of advice here.

I've played this game before, old Suzukis seem to like to do this, threads into ally of dubious quality used multiple times, even with a torque wrench can fail.

Getting a bigger bolt is not always possible to thread bigger. Also I wouldn't want to risk the swarf in my engine.

Sump off is easiest & best solution. Once you've done it you'll wonder why you thought it was hard. Just look for the last bolt, it will be hiding.

Best solution was I took a mate's sump plate to the local engine reconditioner & he fitted a Timesert (or something like that) which is like a solid complete helicoil for ~$20. This means you can make a groove in it from the top so the last 6mm of oil drains without it falling apart like a helicoil would.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Hey guys, everyone who has contributed a BIG thank you. This was a genuine concern.

Yes I'm an IDIOT. I used a lot of force to turn the screw the other way and all the while I was thinking how the heck did I get it on so tight when I put it on. Alas, it didn't click. But now I know.

After taking on board what you all have said I've made a decision to do this:

1. Saturday morning crack open a Kingfisher (real men's beer) or ten.

2. Take it all off, get the sump off.

3. Get the plug off and give it to my mate who can heli-coil the sump plug hole and give it back to me. He will take till Wednesday to do it, so I'll buy a bus ticket for the week (damn).

4. Put it back together Saturday the week after next, or if I can work in the light my garage offers why not give it a try.

Again thank you all for laying it down. Appretiate everyones input. Lol I'm such a fuck up!

Cheers
YR64L.

[The Pastor]

you sure your able to take the sump off

[enigma51]

Hey guys, everyone who has contributed a BIG thank you. This was a genuine concern.

Yes I'm an IDIOT. I used a lot of force to turn the screw the other way and all the while I was thinking how the heck did I get it on so tight when I put it on. Alas, it didn't click. But now I know.

After taking on board what you all have said I've made a decision to do this:

1. Saturday morning crack open a Kingfisher (real men's beer) or ten.

2. Take it all off, get the sump off.

3. Get the plug off and give it to my mate who can heli-coil the sump plug hole and give it back to me. He will take till Wednesday to do it, so I'll buy a bus ticket for the week (damn).

4. Put it back together Saturday the week after next, or if I can work in the light my garage offers why not give it a try.

Again thank you all for laying it down. Appretiate everyones input. Lol I'm such a fuck up!

Cheers
YR64L.

Leave the beer for after and remeber

lefty loosie righty tighty

[HenryDorsetCase]

Hey guys, everyone who has contributed a BIG thank you. This was a genuine concern.

Yes I'm an IDIOT. I used a lot of force to turn the screw the other way and all the while I was thinking how the heck did I get it on so tight when I put it on. Alas, it didn't click. But now I know.

After taking on board what you all have said I've made a decision to do this:

1. Saturday morning crack open a Kingfisher (real men's beer) or ten.

2. Take it all off, get the sump off.

3. Get the plug off and give it to my mate who can heli-coil the sump plug hole and give it back to me. He will take till Wednesday to do it, so I'll buy a bus ticket for the week (damn).

4. Put it back together Saturday the week after next, or if I can work in the light my garage offers why not give it a try.

Again thank you all for laying it down. Appretiate everyones input. Lol I'm such a fuck up!

Cheers
YR64L.

Don't sweat it. Whenever I fuck something up I think of something Erv Kanemoto is supposed to have said when told he was head and shoulders above other mechanics working in the GP Pits. He is supposed to have said "Well. I'm standing on a big mound of broken parts".

It might not be true but it should be.

enjoy, etc. Plus you get to clean out all the crap living in your sump. Its a win, really.

[Patch]

Good luck taking "the sump" off. It ain't a car - there is no "sump" to take off. You have to split the cases, translation - the entire motor comes to bits.

It ain't worth splitting the cases just to rethread the drain hole. At worst, take the motor out and perform the task on a workbench, but a competent tradesman will do it in place. It ain't that hard, just time consuming.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Good luck taking "the sump" off. It ain't a car - there is no "sump" to take off. You have to split the cases, translation - the entire motor comes to bits.

It ain't worth splitting the cases just to rethread the drain hole. At worst, take the motor out and perform the task on a workbench, but a competent tradesman will do it in place. It ain't that hard, just time consuming.

Wow really? When I looked at it earlier it looked like the lower part of the engine where the oil is kept, I call it the 'sump' and I could be wrong, but just so people know what I am talking about, is connected on to the motor via a gasket and about 10 alan key screws. I am presuming if I take this off my poor motor won't fall to bits. There is however an insulated wire running inside the 'sump' and I presume this is the oil level sensor???

If you know something I don't then I do appreciate you telling me now. I could still take it to Yamaha, although I'd rather get dirty myself. Care to elaborate?

[Pussy]

First: the sump should be removable

Second: Raj, you are a tit for stripping the thread!

Third: Good on you for taking good advice

Forth: big ups for admitting a fuck up!

Hope it all works out for you!

[The Pastor]

yeah i have 0 experiance on bikes newer than 1992, but my understanding is that it will have a removeable sump. raj where you at hat? I could come and check for ya. You could also give me the bash you big gangsta.

[Gubb]

I've got the tools, the space, and portable floodlights if you need a hand on Saturday, or after work to put it back together.

I'm only a dozen away.