Pakeha world views?

[Sparrowhawk]

I think this is a really interesting question. I don't think there's a way to some up the "Pakeha World View". I don't think of myself as a Pakeha. I think of myself as a Kiwi. But my 'world view' is going to be different to the Kiwi next door.

However I do get upset that it seems like Maori are more important than every other culture. Like has already been mentioned, having every gubbermint document translated into Maori seems to be a waste of money & time.

Sorry, I don't have any pictures that say this...

[trump-lady]

I think this is a really interesting question. I don't think there's a way to some up the "Pakeha World View". I don't think of myself as a Pakeha. I think of myself as a Kiwi. But my 'world view' is going to be different to the Kiwi next door.

However I do get upset that it seems like Maori are more important than every other culture. Like has already been mentioned, having every gubbermint document translated into Maori seems to be a waste of money & time.

Sorry, I don't have any pictures that say this...

ok lets do this lets forget the pakeha european race words. Pics, thoughts on Whats YOUR worldveiw and then post with it what you consider yourself. Because the thing is your not going to probably agree with any collective thinking of any group you dont identify with simply because you cant. So lets do it that way then have a squizz at if the collective is the same or the majority on this site is the same view....omg did that make sense

[trump-lady]

For example, someone who has never riden a motorbike will have a very different worldview on the dangers...... Just wont ever agree cause they will never understand it.

So if I put bikes are dangerous...non biker
Bikes are not dangerous....biker

and we have 100 opinions I would think that the majority of opinions will fall into those two categories.

Diffenernt world views based on different experiences

none right or wrong (unless your a biker lol)

different people, not all thinking the same but I beleive a clear difference will be shown between those who do ride and those that dont

[trump-lady]

I think this is a really interesting question. I don't think there's a way to some up the "Pakeha World View". I don't think of myself as a Pakeha. I think of myself as a Kiwi. But my 'world view' is going to be different to the Kiwi next door.

However I do get upset that it seems like Maori are more important than every other culture. Like has already been mentioned, having every gubbermint document translated into Maori seems to be a waste of money & time.

Sorry, I don't have any pictures that say this...

Thats where Im having problems. I know kinda things I want to put but having trouble finding pics that represent it.

How can I represent that in a dvd limited to about 10 secs and using pictures?

Ive got about 30 pics and 3.50 secs done

[Big Dave]

I'm already famous :-P

20 - mating
30 - the offspring
40 - family security
50 - personal achievement

[Disco Dan]

You mean to say how a stone age people were lifted out of the mud and given all the benefits of a more advanced culture and squander it with drug, alcohol and child abuse? And have proven that no matter how many policies are made,and how much money is spent on health, education,employment based on racist criteria they still refuse to better themselves?

Nail = head.

Now many Europeans will see the NZ flag and identify with it as will some Maori, however I imagine not many Europeans are driving around with this flag on their car.

The topic of equality and of racial divide come in with that. You cannot expect a nation to work collaboratively, equally and without racial divide when there are two very different flags being flown. I realize the maori flag is just a faux flag but the maori people force it upon the nation as being real and thus recognized.

How can maori expect to be treated the same when 'they' do not treat others the same? How can we as a nation expect to progress when such a divide exists and continues to grow through continual petty claims from a particular racial group? "H" anyone?

I treat everyone as equals - as fellow human beings. Until of course a particular person gives me reason not to. Is it my fault that the majority of people that have lost or are losing that 'human equal' view point are maori & pacific islanders? no. And yes this is fair - just like I trust people, until they give me a reason not to trust them.

[sidecar bob]

Trump lady, could you please explain what these people are digging at in trying to figure out what this world veiw may be?
Quite apart from being a complete fail because there isint one world view for all of us, as has been pointed out previously, i would really like to know who wants to know & why.

[Headbanger]

How long has this thread had a poll attached to it?

In response to the poll question, There is no such thing as a pakeha.

Its a meaningless word, mere gibberish.

[trump-lady]

Nail = head.



The topic of equality and of racial divide come in with that. You cannot expect a nation to work collaboratively, equally and without racial divide when there are two very different flags being flown. I realize the maori flag is just a faux flag but the maori people force it upon the nation as being real and thus recognized.

How can maori expect to be treated the same when 'they' do not treat others the same? How can we as a nation expect to progress when such a divide exists and continues to grow through continual petty claims from a particular racial group? "H" anyone?

I treat everyone as equals - as fellow human beings. Until of course a particular person gives me reason not to. Is it my fault that the majority of people that have lost or are losing that 'human equal' view point are maori & pacific islanders? no. And yes this is fair - just like I trust people, until they give me a reason not to trust them.

Your missing the point. Im not here to say whos right and who wrong. What I am saying is there is a clear difference of worldveiws between some who veiw the NZ flag and identify with it as theres and those who identify with the the Maori flag. The difference is their world veiw and how that will influence their way of thinking even if its right or wrong. It was purely an example I thought people could identify with.


Everyone in this thread is showing their worldviews without even realising it. You are filtering through this thread what your worldview exposes you to see and your comments also reveal your worldview.

I think through this thread a common theme is occuring....there is no pakeha worldview..... and perhaps I will add this to my pictures (how Im not sure)

[Sparrowhawk]

OK, seeing as flags seem to be a good way to go - the NZ Flag as I believe it should be.

[Disco Dan]

Your missing the point.

Probably.

Perhaps more clarification is in order. Not everyone is learning what you are learning!

[trump-lady]

Trump lady, could you please explain what these people are digging at in trying to figure out what this world veiw may be?
Quite apart from being a complete fail because there isint one world view for all of us, as has been pointed out previously, i would really like to know who wants to know & why.

Correct theres no one world veiw for all of us but there are collective worldveiws also. Like my example on my work. My agencys collective worldview based on feminist idealogy, western frameworks, no contact with offenders is the collective WV even though it is made up of 30 people. I totally disagree with this world veiw and so do my co-workers times 3. However collectively we are known still as a feminist, western agency and although my worldview is different my agencys collective still remains key in how my agency operates. I still have a different WV though.

Now this dvd is for bi cultural social work. It has 6 components, One is the conflict that exist within social work between Maori ( others ) and non-maori and how this conflict can effect relationships within social services. To do this we must as practitioners examine different worldveiws, individual and collective to further understand the potential of biculturalism in social work.

Im presuming that if we did difference between collective WV on race gender age etc NZ the dvd would be hours and hours so the dvd has been limited to Maori and Non Maori as those are who, as social workers we come in contact with.

Now as a social service practitioner for 2 years I can tell you there is a def difference in worldveiws that crosses socio-economic, race and gender. I purely wanted to seek pictures from peoples personal worldview so my presentation was not tainted by my own worldview

[trump-lady]

Probably.

Perhaps more clarification is in order. Not everyone is learning what you are learning!

Sorry that was a rude statement to make to you. That was my WV and perhaps Im missing the point in your WV! lol

just all got so complicated........

[idb]

Everyone in this thread is showing their worldviews without even realising it. You are filtering through this thread what your worldview exposes you to see and your comments also reveal your worldview.

I think through this thread a common theme is occuring....there is no pakeha worldview..... ...

Quite right but that doesn't help with your assignment.
It seems that the requirement is to come up with some theory of a "Pakeha worldview".

Perhaps the "Pakeha worldview" is an imperative to reject the notion of Pakeha and so any idea that there could be a Pakeha perspective, and consequently a Maori perspective.

This is shown in statements like "I'm not a Pakeha, I'm a New Zealander" and "Why should Maori be given special treatment/money/status, we should just be New Zealanders".

I suppose a corollary of this is a further worldview involving a rejection of any responsibility for injustices visited on the original inhabitants by previous generations.

How you put this into pictures I've no idea.

[Ixion]

Pretty much covers it. But I ain't no paheka nor a european either.