Pampera V DT230

[DZL]

I had my intro to a Pampera yesty, borrowed the demo from Baileys in Hawera & took it along to the farm of Roy Clemments, who is a longtime trials man, his sons too, their farm is often the venue for 'official' events like Nationals etc.

I took my DT230 along for comparison as previously I had wondered if it might perhaps replace the DT in my fleet. The bad news is NO, I think I might have to wangle a Pampa AS WELL AS my DT  as I found them sufficiently different, prolly better to say 'significantly' different in fact.

Whereas the wee DT has a lovelly midrange & topend riiiip, the Pampa was by comparison pretty much all down low ~ but sh*t doesnt it do THAT well! I reckon I would get to use it a whole lot more often than the DT as it is the sort of bike with which you can entertain yaself for hours just plonking around the garden or nearest reserve.

The last trials bikes I rode were the likes of TY250 & TLR200's years ago, I fell down a whole lot too ~ but the Pampa is very much what I would have liked those other bikes to be for me . . ..  heaps of docile non-stalling bottom-end, light, nimble, & very manouverable whether you are sitting or standing ~  for reference I'm 55, 100kg, 6ft, clumsy, & not too keen on slippery downhills ever since I fell down that 150ft slip at Te Wera years ago!

I'ld prolly want to raise the bars an inch or two (easy enough) & mebbe even go down one more front tooth coz I wouldnt (personally) be ever wanting to do any rarking-up with the Pampa, not when I also have a magic DT for that purpose. I've had the DT for a few months now & have covered about 500kms of trail-only useage, in which time it hasnt managed to throw me off at all (yet!) whereas on things like DR350's in the past I always seem to be getting turfed off. These daize my requirement of a bike is just to be able to enjoy a ride without too much adrenalin . . . instead I carry a digicam & stop lots to take snaps etc.

So, Roy dragged out his GasGas 350 pucka Trials mount & took me for a plonk around his lumpiest acre, & I had a ball! We switched over for a while (he's interested in a Pampa too) & it was interesting to compare it to the 'proper' trials bike ~ which has even more grunty bottom end & feels like a slalom kayak in that it is SO easy to change direction ~ it actually feels more comfy while turning than straight ahead, but a helluva lot less comfy (almost no seat), no fuel range, much more bent over, harder to start with that stumpy kickstart lever . . .. obviously you wouldnt be looking to buy a Pampa for proper trials use, but as a bike for a greybeard to putter around on it is brrrrillyunt! It would also be ideal for teaching a learner to ride on.

 

HTH

DZL aka Broo C em

[Oscar]

Hey Brucee
WTF is a Pampera?
Where's it from?
Piccies?

[igor]

Originally posted by Oscar
Hey Brucee
WTF is a Pampera?
Where's it from?
Piccies?

Jeseus Oscar man, that piccie under ya name is scary

hey isn't this a squid board

[Oscar]

Originally posted by igor
Jeseus Oscar man, that piccie under ya name is scary

hey isn't this a squid board

It's from the ADVRider board.
I usually use this one, but some bastidge here already used it.

BTW - if it ain't a squid board, how did an AG100 rider got here?

[Motu]

Yeah show us some choice pics diseezil,ifin ya know how,I've been hearing about this thing,but haven't seen one yet.Gas Gas did a semi trail trials bike a few years ago...is this the next step?

We went riding on the Clemments farm about 20 yrs ago when the boys were about the best in the country,they tooks us to some choice spots and gave us a bit of ''tuition''.I hear one of the boys is back at trials again?

[DZL]

De Pampera is a thing wot looks like a slightly shortarse trailbike with good quality bits, but the GasGas men put the super-plonky 250cc trials motor init .. .  ya getta have a whole lotta fun without too far to fall too fast.

I havent sussed 'doing photoes postings ' yet, but ya can buy the Augusr Kiwi Rider to see & hear more about it, or gosee;-

 

http://ds.dial.pipex.com/merlinbooks/mypamp.html

 

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/merlinb...ggpampera.html

 

http://www.gasgas.com/Pages/2002-s/p...250-specs.html

Njoy!

As soon as I sell something else to buy the Pamper I'll be getting to know the Clements' farm MUCH more betterer! They musta been there a bloody long while coz the AA map shows a trig stn called 'Clements' right near the intersection where the hoos is.

Hey Hoscar, give that Jeff Bush a call & see if he wants company for the ride down to Tar-Hora!

 

eee oop lads!

;-))

 

 

[Oscar]

Originally posted by DZL
[ is.

Hey Hoscar, give that Jeff Bush a call & see if he wants company for the ride down to Tar-Hora!

 

eee oop lads!

;-))

 

  [/B]

Okey Dokey Skipper, I'm onta it!

Hutch, Lowry & Me are meetin' Vege & Co at Te Uku, so I'll Buschy a ring and see if'n he wants ta come...

[DZL]

Which way is the 'convoy' comin south then? See if they wanna do Kaphia, Marakopa, Awakino (petrol), Ahititi, Mt Damper etc, lovelly ride  . .. but let Vege go in front, too much adrenalin when he passes ya sideways on the old GS, A!

 

Broo C ;-))

[Oscar]

Originally posted by DZL
Which way is the 'convoy' comin south then? See if they wanna do Kaphia, Marakopa, Awakino (petrol), Ahititi, Mt Damper etc, lovelly ride  . .. but let Vege go in front, too much adrenalin when he passes ya sideways on the old GS, A!

 

Broo C ;-))

The Vegemobile is still in dry dock, 'sides no 'kin boat like that gets near the DRZ on the gravel...

We're thinkin' Te Uku/Waitetuna/Piriongia/Otorohanga/Te Kuiti/Ohura/Ongarue/National Park to meet Johnny's mob.

[DZL]

Jeez eh, & they shalt know thee by thy funny walks after such an epic roundabouting!

;-))

 

[SPman]

Originally posted by Oscar
It's from the ADVRider board.
I usually use this one, but some bastidge here already used it. 

Whoops, sorry about that 

I'll find someone else equally disgusting

 

Pampera sounds like my sort of trail/trial bike - must try and get a ride...

Doaes a TS90 qualify me as a traillie squid? 

[Oscar]

Originally posted by SPman
Whoops, sorry about that 

I'll find someone else equally disgusting

 

Pampera sounds like my sort of trail/trial bike - must try and get a ride...

Doaes a TS90 qualify me as a traillie squid? 

Nah, you had it first.
A change is as good as a rest anyways...

[Motu]

The half trials/trail bike has been around a long time - remember Bultaco tryed it back in the early 70s - half Sherpa T half Frontera...forget the name,but it never caught on. It's what I want in a dirt bike - going fast is a blast,but going impossible places,up a killer climb,along a stream bed etc gives me more satisfaction.

The Clemments have been there a while alright DZL,the boys (Dean and Andrew?) grew up there and they must be well into their 40s now.We turned left and into the paddock,going over a huge concrete pipe first,once we could do that they made us do those monster rocks,then onto the farm,looking for rocky streams - we wanted to lean how to cope with those.

I'd take a TS 90 anywhere SPman - going on a trail ride and getting places guys have trouble with on $10,000 bikes is way fun - you could run back and help Oscar push his DRZ 125 pig up the hills.

[Dave]

Pampera sounds like a womans hygene product.

[Mitch]

Hey SPman

I will be out at Woodhill this Sunday 24/08/03 at a family day, will have either the Pampera or EC200 or maybe even both.  Why don't you head out and have a go???