What speed WOULD you ride at?

[pritch]

Conditions permitting, whatever speed the bike can sustain all day without causing it damage. It's a long time since I did that though, these days other considerations intrude.

The other day I had cause to travel a road featured in "The NZ Motorcycle Atlas". Hitherto unseen I used it three times in a couple of days. While scenic and winding in places there were also some long straights.

As it transpired my speed was governed not by the max cruise figure (200kph + or - ) but by the possibility of the detector going off - or worse - not going off...

[MSTRS:Me]

The other day I had cause to travel a road featured in "The NZ Motorcycle Atlas". Hitherto unseen I used it three times in a couple of days. While scenic and winding in places there were also some long straights.

As it transpired my speed was governed not by the max cruise figure (200kph + or - ) but by the possibility of the detector going off - or worse - not going off...

That's the saddest thing I've read here for some time.

[NZsarge]

BUT here's the problem...
HOW DOES OFFICER KILLJOY KNOW that you are legal to do so? I am not putting a pennant on a pole on the bike. Or wear a pink helmet. Or a dayglo vest. Or whatever gay identifier deemed suitable.
So the upshot is that I will be continually standing on the side of the road waving my special licence under Officer Killjoy's nose. Where's the fun in that?

While we're talking impossibility's there would be a super small transponder fitted to the certified bikers kit somewhere only known to said biker so it did'nt get nicked, all 5-0 person's radar equipment would be able to read said transponders from a distance further the their radar's can detect.

[pritch]

That's the saddest thing I've read here for some time.

Don't feel too sad. I was having fun but I'm not about to admit to anything here...

And I voted for the 200+ because there wasn't a 200 option.

[SARGE]

Hypothetical situation:
New government policy (perhaps due to a coup by bikers).
There is an advanced riding course available, maybe 80 hours of intensive training, followed by a tough test that you would need that training to pass. The course & test are free, but take at least 4 weekends. The reward is an upgrade to 'Advanced Motorcycle License' and this license removes the speed limit on the open road for you. There is no equivalent for car drivers.
So you do the course (and learn a lot of really valuable stuff) and pass the test. You then always ride to the conditions, of course.

But typically what is the speed you do on the open road (with this license)?

Remember - there is no speed limit for you on the open road, you can not be fined for speeding!

what a silly situation ..

first off.. while you are " on the stop.. idiot cagers on the open road change lanes without looking .. brake for no apparent reason and do everything they normally do anyway ..

carnage mate ..

in the US.. the "Rural" speed limit is between 75 and 85 MPH.. but thats on 6 lane...flat straight, well maintained federal highways ....anyplace that has more than 50000 people is still 55 mph.. i made Indianapolis Indiana from Dayton Ohio (128 Miles) in 48 Minutes on a VMax once .. sure .. 3 am Sunday morning ..

me .. a ZRX1100 and a Waterbus.. good times

[scumdog]

While we're talking impossibility's there would be a super small transponder fitted to the certified bikers kit somewhere only known to said biker so it did'nt get nicked, all 5-0 person's radar equipment would be able to read said transponders from a distance further the their radar's can detect.

So 15 year old snotty on his 'L' can waft along at 150kmh on his mates bike and know he won't be stopped.......

[jtzzr]

*shrug* different coloured number plate or summit like that?

You do realise that unless the entire country votes me in as supreme dictator this idea will never happen don't you? (Goddamn I would sort this fuckin' country out, no doubt about it)

If somehow in the strange weird world we live in you did become "Supreme Dictator" Are you gonna trade in the Burgman?

I`m not too sure I could respect a leader that rides a Burgman.

[MarkH]

If somehow in the strange weird world we live in you did become "Supreme Dictator" Are you gonna trade in the Burgman?

I`m not too sure I could respect a leader that rides a Burgman.

Oh sure, the job will pay well enough so I will be able to trade my Burgy 400 in on a Burgy 650 Exec. That would be my commuter. I would also buy a couple of sports tourers (because that is the style of bike I like) - one faired one & one naked one.

I would also increase the ACC levy on cars, because car drivers injure a lot of motorcyclists and that costs a lot in ACC. Some of that money would fund an advertising campaign urging car drivers to watch out for bikes.

[MarkH]

first off.. while you are " on the stop.. idiot cagers on the open road change lanes without looking .. brake for no apparent reason and do everything they normally do anyway ..

Obviously the well trained 'Advanced Motorcycle License' riders will understand the dangers and slow down for the 4-wheeled traffic and use caution. Essentially this special license would allow riders to ride how they do now when they think there are no cops around, but they could do it wherever safe without fearing the HP. I am sure that there are already riders that ride like the speed limit doesn't apply to them, obviously not all the time though.

[jtzzr]

Oh sure, the job will pay well enough so I will be able to trade my Burgy 400 in on a Burgy 650 Exec. That would be my commuter. I would also buy a couple of sports tourers (because that is the style of bike I like) - one faired one & one naked one.

I would also increase the ACC levy on cars, because car drivers injure a lot of motorcyclists and that costs a lot in ACC. Some of that money would fund an advertising campaign urging car drivers to watch out for bikes.

I`d vote for ya, knowing you would get a 650 burgman.and for that last paragraph as well.

Would you also pronouce yourself as "BURGY KING"?

[MarkH]

So 15 year old snotty on his 'L' can waft along at 150kmh on his mates bike and know he won't be stopped.......

Yeah, there will need to be some severe penalties for doing that - severe enough to make it a better idea for the 'L' rider to just speed on his own bike and hope he doesn't get caught doing it (or obey the law).

[_intense_]

Again depends on conditions, my 140 vote is an "up to" speed. I generally find 100 to 120 comfy for most dry NZ conditions, Good quiet country roads, or motorways without to much traffic, 140 is fine by me

ditto, i feel this is my equivalent to 110 in a car. can cruise safely at up to 140 in good conditions with no traffic and feel quite happy about it.

[NZsarge]

So 15 year old snotty on his 'L' can waft along at 150kmh on his mates bike and know he won't be stopped.......

While we're talking impossibility's there would be a super small transponder fitted to the certified bikers kit somewhere only known to said biker so it did'nt get nicked, all 5-0 person's radar equipment would be able to read said transponders from a distance further the their radar's can detect.

ie: Helmet or wallet, boots, whatever.

[vgcspares]

would there be anything these kings of the road couldn't do (like overtake a cop at three times their speed) ?

[MarkH]

would there be anything these kings of the road couldn't do (like overtake a cop at three times their speed) ?

You would want to overtake cops in a safe manner, not crossing double yellows, plenty of visibility, etc. But in my utopia overtaking of cops would be allowed.

I would also have the ACC levy on vehicles only paid once, for my own 2 bikes (that I would be buying) & 1 maxi scooter I would pay one ACC levy equal to the highest levy for any vehicle I owned, not one per vehicle registered.