Based on the KB poll only 25% of riders ride inside speed limits.

**SPman** · 6th April 2009, 19:29

The "safest" speed on the open road is reckoned to be the 85 th percentile of speeds driven where there would be no limits to constrain everyone.
Which, in general observation would be around the 118-125 kph region.
So, no surprises there!

At a safety forum here in Perth last week, it was revealed that 40% of bike fatalities and 60% of high speed pursuit involved riders with,:-
no license, never had a license, stolen or borrowed bike or riding outside the requirements of a license, drugs & alcohol.
Often a combination of many of these factors.
So, what are the figures in NZ?

**breakaway** · 6th April 2009, 19:31

What kind of a pussy rides at the limit? I ain't got time to fuck around and go slow.

**mctshirt** · 6th April 2009, 19:36

Results are absolutely meaningless unless you're a journalist or a politician because poll was not random so statistically useless and even more useless without other road user information to put it in context besides the "I can go faster than you" factor of voluntary polls. Sample size would suggest a confidence level approaching a large dose of salt

**Conquiztador** · 6th April 2009, 20:13

Originally Posted by mctshirt

Results are absolutely meaningless unless you're a journalist or a politician because poll was not random so statistically useless and even more useless without other road user information to put it in context besides the "I can go faster than you" factor of voluntary polls. Sample size would suggest a confidence level approaching a large dose of salt

Fully agree. It was nothing more then an indication. But the most interesting part I found was that the % stayed the same between the 100k, 120k and 140k from very low numbers up to the final numbers of just under 230.

**nallac** · 6th April 2009, 20:53

it wasn't a very scienticfic poll,

who answered, at the stop?...

could of been a low cc scooter rider tapped out at 70 klicks

or could of been busa owner doing 320+.......

how many bike owners do you know who haven't exceeded the limit at some stage???

**Katman** · 6th April 2009, 20:54

Originally Posted by Bonez

Not quite. He advicates riding to the conditions on the open road iirc

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At least someone's been paying attention.

**Ocean1** · 6th April 2009, 21:06

Originally Posted by SPman

The "safest" speed on the open road is reckoned to be the 85 th percentile of speeds driven where there would be no limits to constrain everyone.

True democratic velocity eh?

Actually strkes a chord, sounds perfectly reasonable, got references?

**H00dz** · 6th April 2009, 21:34

Originally Posted by EJT

I suspect the 75% who travel at over 100kmph would probably apply to cagers as well.

Yeah I agree with you LOL.....ps found my keys Yehaaa the FJ rides again

**zzzbang** · 6th April 2009, 21:43

Maybe its time to review the speedlimit? 100km/h sigh.. how long ago did vehicles advance past the point of being able to safely drive at 100km/h? 20 years? more?

**Reido** · 6th April 2009, 21:47

quite frankly some people shouldnt be allowed to drive/ride let alone go faster than 100kmph..

i should probably be in that group XD

**Static** · 6th April 2009, 21:48

Originally Posted by zzzbang

Maybe its time to review the speedlimit? 100km/h sigh.. how long ago did vehicles advance past the point of being able to safely drive at 100km/h? 20 years? more?

yea but the main problem being how many retards in cars (and on bikes) are not capable of safely controlling a car/bike 100+

**zzzbang** · 6th April 2009, 21:55

Originally Posted by Static

yea but the main problem being how many retards in cars (and on bikes) are not capable of safely controlling a car/bike 100+

It cant be just me that thinks at a 100km/h you fall asleep/loose concentration because it is so ridiculously slow. At faster speeds i tend to keep focus alot better, concentrate on surroundings more and overall just more vigilant.

Ever notice all those drivers that just 'latch on' to the car infront of them and do the snooze all the way to auckland? thats not lack of capability, its stupidity and lack of concentration.

Even my 76 (or was it 77?) year old granmother (who lives in south africa) can drive capably at 120Km/h (which is the speedlimit in SA). so come on lol..

**LBD** · 6th April 2009, 22:02

Originally Posted by FJRider

if the law makers were really switched on... they would lower the speed limits. The resulting increase in revenue gathered in fines..... might pay for the ACC deficit... then again...

Go crawl back in it...

Speed limit?????....I thought those signs were a speed suggestion

**Laxi** · 6th April 2009, 22:05

Originally Posted by zzzbang

Maybe its time to review the speedlimit? 100km/h sigh.. how long ago did vehicles advance past the point of being able to safely drive at 100km/h? 20 years? more?

now, if we can just get some people to advance to the point of being able to safely drive at 100km we'd be set