Brand new vs used sportsbike (600cc)

[_intense_]

Cons: considering a suzuki
Pros: considering a bike

[EJK]

How about a 750?
Why would people choose 750 over the 600?

[Gremlin]

Generally speaking, the 750 is overpriced, at least in your comparison of suzukis.

Ie, the new 750 was only a thousand less than the thou, basically, its no contest in that comparison. The thou with the massive torque is the better bang for buck (think this is a couple of years old, not sure what the going rate for those bikes are now)

However, the 750 does have more torque over the 600, the 600 is basically designed for the race track, and oh, its road legal. Peaky, and you can't surf the torque when riding. Has to be kept in the power. Still more than enough for most on the road, if they are honest with themselves (or perhaps the thou can do things the 600 can't... like drift )

Obviously suzuki isn't the be all anyway, and things like ducatis etc, don't make traditional engine capacities (600, 1000) but can be much more fun.

Stepping from small bikes to a sportsbike, yes, you can ride anything, but for safety, I think a 600 is plenty. Generally, coming from a 250, your right hand isn't highly tuned, and you're used to being hamfisted. Bad approach when attaching it to 150+ rwhp

k5/k6 750 vs 04 zx10, we were pretty evenly matched until the low 200's, then I could eat the 750 whenever I felt like...

[Kendog]

Generally speaking, the 750 is overpriced, at least in your comparison of suzukis.

These days the 750 seems to be highly priced if you look at $ per cc compared to the 1000. Surely there is a reason for this, and I think it's the fact the 750 is such a great bike for road riding (not saying the 1000 isn't)
The K7/K8 750s brand new or low k's are a relative bargin.

For something a little different, have a look at this. I have ridden one of these briefly, it's not exactly a round town kind of bike but damn it felt nice.

[Kendog]

Ok. How did you buy your bike? Your choice and decisions? Please share your experience.

The answer is to ride as many different bikes as you can, find one that fits you, your riding style, makes you happy etc. Then hunt down a great deal for that kind of bike.

Good luck

[paulmac:Me]

action suzuki in hawera have a gsx-r 600 k8 brand new for 13k plus orc. !

[timetoride]

I bought my daytona 675 second hand.(see profile pic). Had done bugger all k's, is still under warranty and got it for 4k less than a new one. If you hunt around you can find a good deal on what you want. 675 is a great road bike more torque than a 600 but still like to be revved.. . My wife is jeleous cos it gets more rub downs than she does..

[YellowDog]

Secondhand is usually the better bargain, but you are often sacrificing warranty and history of the bike in the process.

Ignore mileage to a degree, its not the be all and end all, a low miler completely abused is worse than a high miler looked after and all services done etc.

Usually I buy secondhand, depreciation from new is always a killer. Latest is different, as the new model had major improvements over the old, which I wanted, so I bit the bullet.

There are some fantasic discounted bargains around for new bikes.

Secondhand bikes seem to be comparatively more expensive and not such good value.

If you are prepared to take last year's model then you can get a fantasitc deal, which is likely to be as cheap as the very same secondhand bike; with the important difference being that it is unused.

Forgetting the money side and the main reason that I bought a new bike is:

The first few 000ks on a new engine are critical. The only way you can ensure that your bike's engine will be properly run in is to do it yourself.

IME - The bargain ex-demonstrators often leak oil when they should not.

The other big issue for me is that I really would not like to gamble as to whether any of the previous owners was a wheelie/stoppie person or not.

Secondhand bikes with low Ks and a full and comprehensive service history are rare and also not cheap: hence it was a new bike for me!

[DEATH_INC.]

The big thing for me (when I could afford new bikes...) was the fact that I would f**k with it anyway. I think I owned the 12 about 3 months before I voided the warranty....
I don't think I'd be all that fussed about buying new now, there's plenty of s/h bikes out there in bloody good nick. Most newer bikes are pretty indestructible, it doesn't really matter what the old owner has done to them (within reason....) they rarely ever f**k up these days.
edit: And ya don't have to run in a s/h one either

[Edbear]

..it's not exactly a round town kind of bike but damn it felt nice.

A master of understatement....

... My wife is jeleous cos it gets more rub downs than she does..

Priorities mate! The bike can't rub you back...

[Pussy]

action suzuki in hawera have a gsx-r 600 k8 brand new for 13k plus orc. !

That bike looks swish with that yellow/silver paint scheme too, Paul!
Bargain!

[ynot slow]

action suzuki in hawera have a gsx-r 600 k8 brand new for 13k plus orc. !

They're bloody good bastards eh Paul?Serious they are.

I was set to buy new from the Suzuki fest,then found an ABS bandit with pipe 10000km and still under warranty,$3500 under new price.

[EJK]

So much good advices here. Thanks everyone

[SlowHand]

Blah Blah Blah, dribble dribble.

k5/k6 750 vs 04 zx10, we were pretty evenly matched until the low 200's, then I could eat the 750 whenever I felt like...

different models you nutsak. k6/k7.

no disagreement about you eating whenever you feel like tho.

[Hiflyer]

well if you buy a bike from a dealer, usually new, you can haggle with them quite a bit, especially if you have a good relationship with them, ie have brought more business their way of have taken all your business to them, so yea, brand new can be expensive, but they can be more flexible price wise if you play your card right. and then of course you know its been ridden safely (or not)