Police get riders at over 200 km/h

[Pascal]

mmm the old God line.... we we all do that every time we get on your bike or behind the wheel...
Accidents happen at all speeds not just above the speed limit... and people die at all speeds as well...

People aren't omniscient / omnipotent / whatever it is. They cannot predict and know everything that will happen. What those fuckwits did is increase the risk of a fatal accident tremendously.

They give bikers a bad name. They risk other people's lives with their irresponsible behavior.

I can't believe I'm hearing people stick up for them. They had the CHOICE to take their bikes to the track. Places MADE for that type of fun. Not on the open, public roads.

And no 98tls, I do not jaywalk. Call that righteous if you will. But pedestrian crossings and traffic light crossings are there not only for the safety of pedestrians, but the safety of motorists as well.

Follow the rules. They're there for a reason.

[madbikeboy]

Wow, this is hotly contested and debated by the masses.

The two arguments seem to be:
1. Time and place.
2. Just not on a public road.

Fair enough.

I like motorways. Nice barriers on both sides, and sometimes not lined by cheese cutters. All the traffic is going in a similar direction. Normally the sides of the motorway are far enough from the lanes that the view of livestock about to run out is good. There are times where you get big gaps between other vehicles that gives an opportunity for adding additional velocity with enthusiasm.

And yet, the fuzz get excited when you look at the throttle, even when there's no one about.

Of course, for the record, I do exactly 1 kph less than the speed limit whenever I travel (choose that bit to be admissible in the lynching, opps, courtroom). I'm flying into Germany in a month or two, specifically so I can ride some autobahn (and maybe the 'Ring) guilt free.

But, I have this mate who sometimes opens up his bike on similar said environments, and has thus far not died. I disagree with him of course, and if I could find my biege cardigan, I'd be warmer right now.

Point is, that this is a risky past-time, more so than poker (although people do get shot over that still) or knitting (I'd be willing to stab myself instead of knitting something). Chosing appropriate places for that wheelstand, top gear action, or even daydreaming, is the key to it. I see dumb asses on cruisers pulling risky shit on the open road, with little training and too much pride. Similar concept if you expand my logic in that direction.

I have a track bike, which I ride on the track with care and respect, and I ride with care and respect on the road when using my litre GSXR. I like riding, and I like the rush. But I also like coming home (someone has to feed poocho's).

As for 211 - that's about 4th gear, and from a standing start, a GSXR1000 can find 300kph within a kilometer. "Getting shot out of a cannon beats getting squeezed out of a tube". I chose the track as the place to do it for the most part.

Now, everyone take a deep breath and chill the fuck out.

[madbikeboy]

Follow the rules. They're there for a reason.

Like the rule where it's okay to kill Jewish people, because they're Jewish (Hitler)

Or the rule that says it's okay to segregate white and black people (SA, USA until very recently in the scheme of things)

Or the rule that says I can beat my wife whenever I choose (in some Muslim nations)

Or the rule that says I have to accept that a burglar can break into my house, try hurting me or the people in the house, and I can't shot them?

Or how about the rule that means Doctors are almost impossible to prosecute for negligence.

I'd rather do 211 on the Gixer, that 110 kph in the wet on your virago.

[3umph]

Wow, this is hotly contested and debated by the masses.

The two arguments seem to be:
1. Time and place.
2. Just not on a public road.

Fair enough.

I like motorways. Nice barriers on both sides, and sometimes not lined by cheese cutters. All the traffic is going in a similar direction. Normally the sides of the motorway are far enough from the lanes that the view of livestock about to run out is good. There are times where you get big gaps between other vehicles that gives an opportunity for adding additional velocity with enthusiasm.

And yet, the fuzz get excited when you look at the throttle, even when there's no one about.

Of course, for the record, I do exactly 1 kph less than the speed limit whenever I travel (choose that bit to be admissible in the lynching, opps, courtroom). I'm flying into Germany in a month or two, specifically so I can ride some autobahn (and maybe the 'Ring) guilt free.

But, I have this mate who sometimes opens up his bike on similar said environments, and has thus far not died. I disagree with him of course, and if I could find my biege cardigan, I'd be warmer right now.

Point is, that this is a risky past-time, more so than poker (although people do get shot over that still) or knitting (I'd be willing to stab myself instead of knitting something). Chosing appropriate places for that wheelstand, top gear action, or even daydreaming, is the key to it. I see dumb asses on cruisers pulling risky shit on the open road, with little training and too much pride. Similar concept if you expand my logic in that direction.

I have a track bike, which I ride on the track with care and respect, and I ride with care and respect on the road when using my litre GSXR. I like riding, and I like the rush. But I also like coming home (someone has to feed poocho's).

As for 211 - that's about 4th gear, and from a standing start, a GSXR1000 can find 300kph within a kilometer. "Getting shot out of a cannon beats getting squeezed out of a tube". I chose the track as the place to do it for the most part.

Now, everyone take a deep breath and chill the fuck out.

yip yip yip.... good old law abiding bloke

[Creeping Death]

They give bikers a bad name.

Fuck sake!It's bullshit statements like that often quoted lil gem that give bikers a bad fucking name!

[nallac]

I've heard that those gsxr's can do 202 in third with out trying...
Of course i wouldn't do such things....esp not on a test ride....
speed kills,its bad,so bad it even kills kids,so the signs say

[Pascal]

madbikeboy, you know the context. Citing Hitler? I should claim Godwin and claim victory now.

We, as a society, have agreed to a common set of rules and laws that govern our society. We agree to abide by them and continue to do so by living in this country. Don't we? And if we disagree with a rule, we can stand up, speak to our fellow Kiwis and use the powers of our democracy to change that rule.

What we do not do is take the law into our own hands, break the rules simply because we think we're above them. Those people usually end up behind bars.

(With Playstations and sattelite TV and a whole lot better food than most of us eat )

[Mikkel]

Or the rule that says I can rape my wife whenever I choose (in some Muslim nations).

Fixed, sadly.

But yes, blind observance of the rules is not the duty of free citizens in a democratic state. And it is a very important point - but a lot of people seem to be too lazy to think for themselves or to question authority.

[3umph]

speed kills,its bad,so bad it even kills kids,so the signs say

Speed does not kill.... how many people have died from going to fast????

if thats the case pilots would di as they fly faster then we ride....

SPEED DOES NOT KILL... THE SUDDEN IMPACT DOES

and that can be falling over on the grass and hitting ones head or crashing at 300kph...

[jrandom]

I should claim Godwin and claim victory now.

Citing Godwin doesn't give you victory; it just implies that rational debate has ceased.

... makes me want to fucking puke.

And you know I'll be there to hold your hair out of the way, sweetie.

Also, stock Hayabusas don't do 320kph and never did.

I'm pretty sure wire-wheel Katana 1100s do, though.

You wouldn't know about that though, aye.

[Creeping Death]

We, as a society, have agreed to a common set of rules and laws that govern our society. We agree to abide by them and continue to do so by living in this country. Don't we? And if we disagree with a rule, we can stand up, speak to our fellow Kiwis and use the powers of our democracy to change that rule.

What we do not do is take the law into our own hands, break the rules simply because we think we're above them. Those people usually end up behind bars.

You after a Nobel Peace Prize nomination or what?Lighten up!Sheesh!

[98tls]

People aren't omniscient / omnipotent / whatever it is. They cannot predict and know everything that will happen. What those fuckwits did is increase the risk of a fatal accident tremendously.

They give bikers a bad name. They risk other people's lives with their irresponsible behavior.

I can't believe I'm hearing people stick up for them. They had the CHOICE to take their bikes to the track. Places MADE for that type of fun. Not on the open, public roads.

And no 98tls, I do not jaywalk. Call that righteous if you will. But pedestrian crossings and traffic light crossings are there not only for the safety of pedestrians, but the safety of motorists as well.

Follow the rules. They're there for a reason.

Sing out when your times up eh,i will jump in ya luggage therefore insuring a place on the second biggest cloud.

[nallac]

but but but thats what the signs and ads say...
do you mean they are lying to us....

[3umph]

We, as a society, have agreed to a common set of rules and laws that govern our society. We agree to abide by them and continue to do so by living in this country. Don't we? And if we disagree with a rule, we can stand up, speak to our fellow Kiwis and use the powers of our democracy to change that rule.

bit like the anti smacking law that was passed because a previous government had a suckass deal with the tree hugging greens to back it and told there MP what way to vote and push a Law onto the county that the majority did not want and made some law abiding people criminals...

Democracy my ass....

[3umph]

We, as a society, have agreed to a common set of rules and laws that govern our society. We agree to abide by them and continue to do so by living in this country. Don't we? And if we disagree with a rule, we can stand up, speak to our fellow Kiwis and use the powers of our democracy to change that rule.

What we do not do is take the law into our own hands, break the rules simply because we think we're above them. Those people usually end up behind bars.

You after a Nobel Peace Prize nomination or what?Lighten up!Sheesh!

nah proberley leader of the Green party