Another fine...

[triple-bee]

this kid would be in prison by now in the UK, i cant wait to get there with my bikes apparantly i can do what the fuck i want and blame it on being broke, grow up take some resposibility, take the bus untill u have a better paying job we all had to do it

[Patch]

seems its not just the OP that needs a box oh tissues

poor widdle hard done by uni

[yungatart]

Easy for you to say when your bike is up to scratch, and you haven't had tickets for anything, and you've got a bit of money to keep the thing going, and you've never been pulled over by a cop and given a bollocking about some transgression (... assume all that applies to you, right?).

Being a penniless student is a pain in the arse. Every dollar counts, that's why you get a bike in the first place! And a dollar saved using the bike instead of other transport, is another dollar to put towards fixing it up (hence the temptation to keep using it).

I've had tickets...but not because my bike/car was not up to scratch!
The only reason I have money to keep my vehicles up to standard is because I budget the little income I do have...as do a lot of us.
Save me the "I'm a poor student" BS...every dollar I earn counts as well, you know. I work 2 jobs, pay a mortgage, etc and support a student who is overseas. I can do this only because I budget, not because I'm rich.

Get over yourself!

[sunhuntin]

Sucks about getting busted twice but heres the thing. He either stops riding because he cant afford it or he gets a job that will pay for his habit.

I was a student 20 years ago but the basics don't change eg permanently broke, mounting debts etc. Before I went to uni I got a job and saved like a bastard. When at uni I had a part time job and in the breaks I did whatever shit work came my way. At various times I went without food, textbooks and more importantly beer. All to keep the bike on the road.

Don't think that is relevant today? A young guy starting at work did exactly what I did and now has a 250 Ninja all paid for. In fact he has just bought his g/f a MX5 and is on top of his student loan.

trouble is though, a lot of kids have been raised to "have it, and have it 5 mins ago" so they dont know how to budget or place things in order of importance. thankfully, some kids have been raised right, and know they have to work in order to get what they desire, and they know its not all going to be handed to them on a silve platter.

[Headbanger]

Save me the "I'm a poor student" BS...every dollar I earn counts as well, you know. I work 2 jobs, pay a mortgage, etc and support a student who is overseas. I can do this only because I budget, not because I'm rich.

Get over yourself!

Aint that the god honest truth.

I have no idea how we manage to pay for the mortgage, all the household bills, food and clothing for 4, run the car, etc etc off my single wage. But we do it, we budget for every single dollar and if we can't afford it then it doesn't happen. And if I went and got $800 worth of tickets then birthdays and Christmas for the kids would have to be cancelled to pay for my fuckup.

[MSTRS:Me]

To all you armchair critics giving this guy a hard time for "not learning" or preaching about "you think it's ok to break the law" or accusing him of wanting a shoulder to cry on... ya might feel better if you remove the carrot from that orifice! Easy for you to say when your bike is up to scratch, and you haven't had tickets for anything, and you've got a bit of money to keep the thing going, and you've never been pulled over by a cop and given a bollocking about some transgression (... assume all that applies to you, right?).

Being a penniless student is a pain in the arse. Every dollar counts, that's why you get a bike in the first place! And a dollar saved using the bike instead of other transport, is another dollar to put towards fixing it up (hence the temptation to keep using it).

Suggestion: go get some more sleep, then clean your eyes out and re-read his post: all he's doing is sharing what happened, and asking advice on a bike purchase. He's quite allowed to feel pissed at getting hundreds of $ of fines... yes, he broke the rules, but so what? Who hasn't? Whatever!

From the lofty heights of your high horse, you probably haven't noticed that Metalor is actually getting the bike sorted! What's really cool is that in spite of these monkeys hijacking his thread giving him crap, not to mention him having fines to pay, he (more or less) ignores it, keeps a positive attitude, and just gets on with things. Also gives the positive followups (eg: the new tyres), and sharing his being pleased about it. That isn't whining at all.

Good luck with it Metalor... I'll buy you a beer next time you're in Welly!

What an utter crock of shit!! This sort of thing is typical of the self-serving excuse-ridden attempts by the OP to justify his lack of judgement and twisted perspective of reality.
Fair enough, you don't berate him for his 'errors', but rather than supporting his excuses, you could have at least given him some sensible advice...
Like why doesn't he get a new scooter (like yours) for fuck-all down and $20pw? He'd get a new set of wheels, with a guarantee, runs on the smell of an oily rag, is legal for him to ride, no maintenance issues to speak of, cheap reg and NO WOF reqd.
That'd be a bit sensible tho, wouldn't it? Back under your bridge, young troll.

[Brett]

Not really, you have 28 days to get the bike WoF'd, rego'd, and then you can write in and ask to be let off the WoF and Rego fines.

The cop is stopping you because he think's you're riding an unrego'd, unwof'd bike. Get your shit sorted.

Also, ride with the L plate. It does you as many favours as the respect that it loses you.

Finally, don't be a dick, ride the 250 until you have the experience to ride a larger displacement bike.

What he says...

Don't blame the coppers, they didn't ask you to ride a bike with no wof, reg, l plate etc!
Don't get me wrong, i am not all that squeeky clean myself and I know neither is Madbikeboy...but we aint bitching about it
PLus, I may ride a tad quick sometimes, but my bike is always up to scratch with wof and reg.

[Brett]

Well, thing is I'm broke as fuck. JUST got some cash. I'm a student man, so $260 for a rego and shit is pretty hard if you can only just manage to pay for the parts. Hasn't been rego'd since last september... so I don't like my chances of getting of on that. I'll try on the liscense though.

I ride with the L plate off cos that's what made me get pulled over the first time... riding on the motorway at 80k with an L plate....

and madbikeboy... I've been riding for over 2 years now, and I'm definitely outriding the TU250 by now... Just haven't had the cash to pay for my restricted. Ahhhh life...

Well if you can afford to get a bike around the 3k range as you suggested, why not consider something like an older ZXR or CBR that may be a bit scratched but runs mint? I tell ya now, you will outhandle most older cruiser or 'semi sports' bikes when it comes to the corners!

[ralph4alice]

... rather than supporting his excuses, you could have at least given him some sensible advice...
Like why doesn't he get a new scooter (like yours) for fuck-all down and $20pw? He'd get a new set of wheels, with a guarantee, runs on the smell of an oily rag, is legal for him to ride, no maintenance issues to speak of, cheap reg and NO WOF reqd.

Fair enough. Metalor certainly isn't doing doing himself any favours: getting caught twice for the same thing isn't the smartest thing to let happen. $800 would be 6 months of bus fare for me; I'd far rather give that to the buses than to the Government! And he really should budget for bus fares when his bike is not road-legal. Getting a new/near-new scooter would be the way to go (stuff on trademe for $2k looks pretty nice), or just a random Japanese 250cc four-stroke would be sweet. My GN250 was an excellent bike! Reliable, torquey, comfortable sitting position for city riding - even if it did sound like a lawn mower LOL.

Not really supporting his excuses - and I don't think he was actually trying to make any... just trying to see things from his side. And noting his positive attitude. Fact remains that his transgression was not directly hurting anyone, so I couldn't care less (so long as I'm not getting the fine )

All people do when heaping crap on others is make themselves look like immature morons (not that they'd care though eh?).

BTW: not quite right about the rego and WOF for my particular model:

Rego: it's actually more than a car! (It was cheaper for mopeds some years ago though.)

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/veh...sing-fees.html :

- Passenger car
Petrol driven - Private $211.84
- Motorcycle
Petrol driven - Less than 61 cc - $ 255.96
Petrol driven - Over 61 cc - $267.21

WOF:

The AN125 is classed as a motorcycle (due to it's power output and top design speed), so it needs WOF checks.

From http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/factsheets/43.html

... a moped has a power output of 2 kW or under and a maximum design speed of 50 km/h or under. A vehicle with a power output over 2 kW or a maximum design speed over 50 km/h is a motorcycle. It is illegal to register a motorcycle as a moped.

But yes, scooter is really cheap to run, and really nippy too. Highly recommended (but only up to 70-80k though).

[MSTRS:Me]

All people do when heaping crap on others is make themselves look like immature morons (not that they'd care though eh?).

Oh, come on...we were just trying to help...
People that paint targets on themselves should expect to get shot at. Especially during the roar. And this close to duck season.

Whoops on the scooter/moped thing. I should have known all that. I consider myself

[boman]

[ralph4alice]

Oh, come on...we were just trying to help...
People that paint targets on themselves should expect to get shot at. Especially during the roar. And this close to duck season.

I suppose so... point taken! Have to agree with that.

Right then Metalor: big ups for sorting out ya bike, and the positive attitude. But seriously mate: get a bus until your bike is legal... the alternative isn't worth the expense. If you tell us you got busted a third time, I for one will be less than impressed.

As for which bike.... IMHO any well-maintained Japanese 4-stroke should see you right. But get the best you can afford. I wouldn't recommend, for example, my AN125 for the motorway; probably 250cc bare minimum, and more like 400cc. In my case, I briefly looked at a 50cc scooter, but decided it was daft not to spend another $600 and get a decent-sized one - and I'm glad I did.

Once you've got everything sorted out, let us know :-)

[steve_t]

BTW: not quite right about the rego and WOF for my particular model:

Rego: it's actually more than a car! (It was cheaper for mopeds some years ago though.)

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/veh...sing-fees.html :

- Passenger car
Petrol driven - Private $211.84
- Motorcycle
Petrol driven - Less than 61 cc - $ 255.96
Petrol driven - Over 61 cc - $267.21

Isn't this cos 70% of the rego is ACC levies?

[madbikeboy]

Rego: it's actually more than a car! (It was cheaper for mopeds some years ago though.)

- Passenger car
Petrol driven - Private $211.84
- Motorcycle
Petrol driven - Less than 61 cc - $ 255.96
Petrol driven - Over 61 cc - $267.21

WOF:

The AN125 is classed as a motorcycle (due to it's power output and top design speed), so it needs WOF checks.

From http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/factsheets/43.html

... a moped has a power output of 2 kW or under and a maximum design speed of 50 km/h or under. A vehicle with a power output over 2 kW or a maximum design speed over 50 km/h is a motorcycle. It is illegal to register a motorcycle as a moped.

But yes, scooter is really cheap to run, and really nippy too. Highly recommended (but only up to 70-80k though).

Okay, 5 posts and you're already taking the piss. It had completely escaped our collective attention that we pay more to register our over 61cc motorcycles than people in cars. Thanks for pointing that out.

[klingon]

...As for which bike.... IMHO any well-maintained Japanese 4-stroke should see you right. But get the best you can afford. I wouldn't recommend, for example, my AN125 for the motorway; probably 250cc bare minimum...

Ooooh OOoh I know! He should get a VOLTY!

It would be perfect for his needs - cheap to run and maintain (as long as you keep the chain lubed) can keep up good speeds on the motorway, and is unlikely to attract attention from those coppers who have nothing better to do with their time than pull over innocent bikers.