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    I got done for going through an orange light - the cop waiting in the side street to turn said it was red. His word against mine and even though I (stupidly) decided to contest it because I knew it was orange and thought the road rules stated I could proceed if unable to stop safely, the police prosecutor said "are you saying you have more experience in traffic matters than a police officer with 25 years' experience?" and I lost the case.

    Basically it's their word against yours and unless you've had a QC with you at the time who was prepared to say you were not speeding, I wouldn't even bother protesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    So its a game of wits for them and for you.
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    Your KB nick appears appropriate because your advice definitely seems dangerous.

    In most of the sad tales I've read hereabout the alleged miscreant would have been better served keeping their mouth shut. Sadly some of us seem ill equipped to indulge in a battle of wits. Especially with an oponent who is trained appropriately and practices on a daily basis.

    I guess the silver lining is that SD and Patrick et al get a few laughs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    He is under no *legal* obligation to show you anything whatsoever. Or, even, to have anything to show you. You can get done for speeding just because a cop sees you and estimates your speed and thinks it over the limit.
    Apparently that is indeed the case. Good cause for concern too if you ask me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beemer View Post
    I got done for going through an orange light - the cop waiting in the side street to turn said it was red. His word against mine
    I had a similar thing. Got pinged cos I went through an orange light. Light changed, and I looked in my mirror; car behind was waaaay too close to stop short (in fact, his front wheels were over the line when he stopped, so he would have cleaned me up), so I went through. No sympathy from plod, simply telling me I should have stopped. Didn''t like it when I questioned if she would rather have been writing him a ticket and leave me struggling to get money to fix my (3rd party insured) car. She just shrugged.

    Once I calmed down, decided I couldn't be arsed fighting it. From a karmic standpoint, I've gotten away with more, so I gave them this one.
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    As has already been said I dont think they have to show you the equipment reading.

    But I thought that the officer who gains the reading has to be the officer that issues the ticket. which stops them using overpasses and radioing ahead to have another officer issue a ticket

    This may have changed but I havnt heard about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    I had a similar thing. Got pinged cos I went through an orange light. Light changed, and I looked in my mirror; car behind was waaaay too close to stop short (in fact, his front wheels were over the line when he stopped, so he would have cleaned me up), so I went through...
    Same thing here - I was about 10m from the intersection when the light changed and I had a guy right behind me so I went through. It hadn't even changed to red when I got to the other side, and the guy who was behind me saw the cop at the last minute and jammed on his brakes. He ended up about half a car length into the intersection but he didn't get a bloody ticket, I did!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Steve, Your KB nick appears appropriate because your advice definitely seems dangerous. In most of the sad tales I've read hereabout the alleged miscreant would have been better served keeping their mouth shut. Sadly some of us seem ill equipped to indulge in a battle of wits. Especially with an oponent who is trained appropriately and practices on a daily basis. I guess the silver lining is that SD and Patrick et al get a few laughs.
    Whatever. I enjoy posting in these type of threads because I want to help the little guy SEE that they dont have to live under a rock, and that they are not subservient little plebs forced to obey by father. My advice will certainly feel dangerous to them, as it is well outside their comfort zone and their ability to act will be cut short by their own internal workings.

    They are really whole human beings who know their rights, and have the braveness to stand up for what they believe to be right. They just don't know that yet - I'm trying to accellerate that process.

    However some will never see it, and they normally angrily deny anything can be achieved, relinquish their rights, and go crawl back down a hole somewhere, and red rep hell out of anyone who says otherwise. So be it.

    So its just a hobby for me.

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    sweet thanks guys, wish I hadnt asked now, tis whole thing has cost me a bloody dozen beers! lol
    Bit scary really that they can just say I saw you doing x speed, here is your ticket. Bit of a worry really!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beemer View Post
    I got done for going through an orange light - the cop waiting in the side street to turn said it was red. His word against mine and even though I (stupidly) decided to contest it because I knew it was orange and thought the road rules stated I could proceed if unable to stop safely, the police prosecutor said "are you saying you have more experience in traffic matters than a police officer with 25 years' experience?" and I lost the case.

    Basically it's their word against yours and unless you've had a QC with you at the time who was prepared to say you were not speeding, I wouldn't even bother protesting.
    My sympathies. Not only have I had my own run-ins with lying pigs but now my daughter is having the same issue. Her case is before the courts at the mo so I won't say too much but in my own case(s) the lies that got told in court made my blood boil. They say what they like, when they like, to whoever they like because THEY CAN!

    Lying cops are the worst scum on the planet, lower than shark shit.

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    In all situations:
    "you were not speeding according to your speedo, and you require to see what speed they have recorded of you"
    if you don't state this - even if you weren't speeding - your busted
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